If you’re idea of quality of life hinges on working as little as possible, consider applying for unemployment.

I don’t believe the Omni pilots are avert to working, they just expect to be adequately compensated for it.


They would also expect a hotel reservation at the end of a very long duty day and the opportunity to go home during their time off without being held out by crew scheduling.

They don’t like to dead head around the world in the back of packed company aircraft so that Omni can sidestep their contractual obligation of buying business tickets, and they certainly not appreciate being talked to like children by an inept management team that uses rhetorical terms to hide their incompetence.

I believe that are the quality of life issues Omni pilots are talking about, not how often we come to work.

 

An Omni 767 captain posted their salary on social media a while ago. $250k.

 

Lets do a little math.
OAI top captain salary $298.00 an hour
Monthly guaranteed 64 Hours
Total $229,000

250k ? He either volunteered to work on his days off, or as it frequently happens, got held out involuntarily during his days off.

 

Seems light to me, especially if you have to work OT to get that much.

 

Light indeed. And that is top wide body rate, mind you. Most captains make quite a bit less.

Maybe he made the post in shame.

 

ATSG just has no idea that they’re killing their golden goose-there’s this idea in modern capitalist to the core America that employees are inherently selfish and the only people that matter are rich shareholders and upper management. Their actions make sense when it’s viewed through the scope of milking every penny out AND punishing those lowly employees who are already asking for too much. They also genuinely don’t trust anyone who doesn’t sit on a board of directors or high level shareholders.

Truly reputable long term companies treat their employees well across the board because they recognize that their value actually comes from those that operate the company they’re pulling their millions-of-dollars in compensation packages from. And shareholders should realize that the stronger the baseline of a company is the better their investment returns over time. So far they don’t here, maybe something will change. At least we have a solid union and both flight attendants and pilots showed their commitment with 100% strike votes.

The core employees and crew at Omni for the most part want to build and be a part of a company they’re proud of. I came here for the people. You can’t treat high class pilots, flight attendants, mechanics, and so on like dirt in comparison to our competitors and expect to have OAI continue to generate the profit levels it did in the past because people will (as we see now) leave for greener pastures. It’s still a good place to work right now but falling behind every day. It used to be the best in the industry. Make it the best again and see what happens.

 

RJ Captains are making more than that; and if you live in base the QOL isn't bad. I would not commute for a regional; worst possible QOL imanginable.

My union speaks for me; but anything less than 30% won't pass a pilot vote. That would put top step CA just at $300k. Even then we are so far behind that it may take closer to 40% to get 50%+1 to catch up to the bottom of the legacy-LCC scales. A first year 737 CA at any of the big three is $281k. Big changes are needed in other areas as well. The 100% strike vote should have been clear enough that our union speaks for us. Nobody here is expecting to match the legacy rates or MMG, but it should be on the same playing field.... we're still out on the most distant parking lot.

The other issue I'm starting to see, and ATSG isn't, is the quality of pilot we're able to hire. Anybody with the time is going to LCC-Direct Entry RJ Captain, or to a legacy. That leaves us the ones that actually want to fly troops, and the odd ones.... we used to hire folks with real experience; now we hire RJ FO's and people who have never sat the left seat in 121. The only thing keeping planes out of the dirt is the quality of our training department and line captains. That barrier is being pushed to the breaking point. Oh, and ATSG maintenance sucks. Never seen so many MEL stickers on our planes. An MEL used to be open until the next stop, or at worst the next mantenance base. Now, if it says 10 days, it stays open 9.5 days; then gets an extension.

So much for the ATSG BS of Omni is exceptionally profitable and we aren't going to mess with a good thing. They do not understand the value of the intangible things. Having troops riding on planes with broken lav's, broken seat backs, inadequate catering, constant return to gates, inflight engine shutdowns, all eventually filters back to command. We didn't used to be that way, and were a preferred vendor.

 

#ThanksATSG.

Ruined a perfectly good airline so they can cut holes in airplanes.

 

So you're saying Stan treated you well and never underpaid anybody at Omni?

Contracts are hard - rose colored glasses are easy.

 

It wasn’t perfect and Stan wasn’t without faults.

But it was orders of magnitude better than under the ATSG buffoon‘s tent.