DeadStick

Can you be more specific? My sim instructors were outstanding, ground school however could have been a little shorter.

SVA402

Sure, I apologize for not clarifying this originally. I felt that the groundschool was obviously too long and that by the end people were not absorbing information well. This "daily grind" thing is possibly the most ridiculous and demeaning thing to a professional pilot I've ever seen. How about just telling people to know limitations and memory items for an oral like every other airline? I felt like our instructor was not knowledgeable and wasted a lot of our time looking information up himself. It appears to me that nobody has ever actually written a groundschool for this company. We must have spent 15 hours reading verbatim from ops specs. Not only is this a terrible way to teach anything, but I looked around the room and saw that one person out of 16 was paying attention. We did not watch a single powerpoint during class which I thought would have been greatly beneficial in presenting information. I realize that this likely wont change, and I don't want to complain too much, but I feel bad for new hires coming through. I don't know what they've done with the daily grind now but if it has them memorizing weights for as many airplanes as we have now, it's not only a waste of time, but completely pointless. On a final note, we spent about 3 hours in class on the FMS, and I feel like for those of us with experience this was fine, but for those without, they were expected to have a much higher level of knowledge upon arriving to sims. Those are my thoughts, but perhaps other classes have been better?

740i

I'm on the -10, and I enjoyed training. It was long, but I felt more than prepared for every hurtle. (Written, Oral, Type, PC, IOE)

DeadStick

Unfortunately not much has changed, although I can't complain about the knowledge level of our instructor. And using class time to read aloud long sections of the GOM/FCOM/OpsSpec is still alive and well.

Z06Abuser

Not sure, I've heard they've staffed a January class, but I'm sure there will be more. Travel to interview is your responsibility, hotel is paid for though.[/QUOTE]

Ty for the reply. Any interview gouge?

DeadStick

Previously posted gouge is sufficient.

Omnipilot

Regarding the length of the Ground School portion, I must say that at my first airline (a legacy carrier) the ground school portion alone was five weeks straight. Omni's is shorter than that.

dutch747

So did the TA get voted in by the membership?

Hetman

Voting closes the 29th at noon.

Even though the first TA failed by 2:1, due to the small size of the bargaining unit not many have to change their votes for this one to pass. Judging by internet posts and what is heard on the line there is a vocal minority that is pretty divided and emotional.

Way2Broke

The membership ratified the tentative agreement.

Below are the ballot results:

For: 116
Against: 83
Total Ballots: 199