Excargodog

I’ll rephrase that. JB didn’t get a competitive contract immediately either. Nor did Spirit. Nor did Frontier. Nor pretty much anyone else.

Excargodog

Nope. Got that out of my system over a decade ago.

Mandrake

Ok then I guess I’ll just ask why are you comparing compass to LCCs? Compass should be flying regional jets for competitive rates, not mainline aircraft for regional rates.

MrToomz

Read up on the Moxy (Breeze) Theory many of us ascribe to. It is the brainchild of the guy who created JB, and as such may fall along a similar trajectory.

Excargodog

The theory/hope that has repeatedly been voiced in this thread since Neeleman announced he would consider starting his new Moxy/Breeze startup with surplus Emb-190 aircraft as Azul replaces them with E-2 aircraft next year until the scheduled A220 aircraft arrive, and since Compass already issues type certificates for the Embraer 170/190, and since we seem to have a surplus of Emb 170/190 qualified pilots right now was that Compass pilots might be candidates for that flying and become the cadre for the new startup. Unlike the Delta flying we are losing, the AA contract we have apparently doesn’t prohibit that.

So OK, I guess I’ll just ask you why if you didn’t understand what I posted rather than simply admitting your ignorance in not understanding the punchline and asking clarification you felt compelled to get abusive, obnoxious, and in-your-face about my posting:

Dude.

Av8rPHX

We need to incorporate some Baby Yoda memes into this thread...calling BobbyLeeSwagger and TillerTemptress


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Taco280AI

Am I the only one tired of seeing them already?

morerightrudder

Envoy is contractually guaranteed all new AA 175 flying until they get up to 130 planes. They have around 90 now. After that, it is legally possible.

But we were never meant to operate for American, as it was a whipsaw move against Envoy to get them to ratify a concessionary contract.

Also, for those still on the Moxy train, remember that the initial group of JetBlue pilots did not even get guaranteed employment. They got individual employment contracts for five years. Renewal was not automatic.

black cat

I know absolutely nothing about this Moxy airline startup. Can you elaborate on your theory and connect the dots between Compass and this startup airline. I understand that this airline will fly the same type that Compass flies. But how does that help Compass pilots? Is the theory that this airline buys Compass?

Mitchell Gant

I’m not saying we’ll get more American flying but be acquired by Envoy to start west coast flying for American/Envoy.