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crewdawg 10-31-2013 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by MARX (Post 1510175)
You're probably an exception to the rule. This has been studied in great detail, and there is some pretty solid data on this suggesting otherwise.

Then count me as another exception to that rule. I completed college with less than a 3.0...in aviation. Finished a 141 program with no check ride busts, 2 busts in all of AF pilot training (including IFF and F-16 training...neither bust was a check ride, just daily rides) and no 121 busts so far (fingers crossed). Hopefully I can keep that trend rolling!

piloted 10-31-2013 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by conquestdz (Post 1511173)
How many MIT grads of any GPA are applying to Compass anyway?

Not sure about applying but I have flown with one here.

jdoggins 10-31-2013 06:20 PM

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80ktsClamp 10-31-2013 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1510839)
The one caveat is the 2.0 guys at MIT tend to blow off airline training like they know everything.

Today's factoid provided from the deepest, darkest, stinkiest region of Mesabah's hindquarters.

Oberon 10-31-2013 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by rcfd13 (Post 1509806)
I got less than a 3.0 in both high school and college. I've never failed a checkride or a 121 training event and my worst systems test score so far has been a 95%. I don't think college GPA is an accurate predictor of anything really. Should someone with a 4.0 GPA from a community college land a job before someone with a 2.8 GPA from Yale for instance?

It's just a number which really means nothing post-grad. How you perform in the work place is what should matter.

They have to figure out if you are willing to put in the time and have the aptitude to finish training in the allotted time. There is precious little information on a one page resume and college GPA is actually quantifiable. Your experience is anecdotal.

Most people who become successful pilots (or businessman, dentists, etc.) had a point in their life when they figured out how to be successful at something, usually school. It isn't a difficult concept; you will naturally be able do perform at a certain level but will have to put in time and effort for each incremental improvement in performance. If you have the aptitude and put in the time you will have a high GPA. If you didn't figure it out until after college you will be at a disadvantage to those who did.

Of course there are extenuating circumstances that may not allow someone to put in the time to have a high GPA. If you worked a full time job to pay for school/flying a lower GPA would be sufficient but you better figure out how to put that on a resume.

Hiring departments aren't interested in people who do the bare minimum (and wear the minimum amount of "flair") because they will cost the company money in the agragate. Sure some or even most will get through training but a percentage will fail, making the company's investment worthless. Its logical to say that a larger percentage of low GPA pilots fail than high GPA pilots since hiring departments apparently rate GPA highly.

Mesabah 10-31-2013 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by FLYZERG (Post 1511103)
Did you go to MIT by chance?

No, but I've hired a couple to do contract work at my company(not airline related). I was unaware at the time but a 2.0 at MIT is actually someone who failed out. They were smart enough to get in but too lazy to apply themselves. Their work effort reflected just that, before I fired them.

surfnski 10-31-2013 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1510839)
The one caveat is the 2.0 guys at MIT tend to blow off airline training like they know everything.

Who goes to MIT to be an airline pilot???

echoaviation 11-01-2013 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by surfnski (Post 1511289)
Who goes to MIT to be an airline pilot???

The people who write the manuals you follow.

MARX 11-01-2013 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1511246)
They have to figure out if you are willing to put in the time and have the aptitude to finish training in the allotted time. There is precious little information on a one page resume and college GPA is actually quantifiable. Your experience is anecdotal.

Most people who become successful pilots (or businessman, dentists, etc.) had a point in their life when they figured out how to be successful at something, usually school. It isn't a difficult concept; you will naturally be able do perform at a certain level but will have to put in time and effort for each incremental improvement in performance. If you have the aptitude and put in the time you will have a high GPA. If you didn't figure it out until after college you will be at a disadvantage to those who did.

Of course there are extenuating circumstances that may not allow someone to put in the time to have a high GPA. If you worked a full time job to pay for school/flying a lower GPA would be sufficient but you better figure out how to put that on a resume.

Hiring departments aren't interested in people who do the bare minimum (and wear the minimum amount of "flair") because they will cost the company money in the agragate. Sure some or even most will get through training but a percentage will fail, making the company's investment worthless. Its logical to say that a larger percentage of low GPA pilots fail than high GPA pilots since hiring departments apparently rate GPA highly.

Spot-on, Oberon. Airline hiring personal consider a lot more than flight time before inviting someone to interview with their airline. GPA, extracurricular activity, checkrides, terminations, work history/job progression, community involvement, and the list goes on.

I am bothered by the number of people on this forum who think it strictly comes down to flight time. Hiring strictly off of flight time would be a dangerously myopic approach to pilot hiring.

coryk 11-01-2013 08:45 AM

I think attitude is huge! Can you show up to the interview dressed professionally, are you humble, cordial, smiling, etc.


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