logging PIC question
12-02-2008 | 07:46 PM
#21
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From: Part 141 Chief Flight Instructor
Nope, unless you are an ATP in an ATP operation.
12-02-2008 | 07:58 PM
#22
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From: Part 141 Chief Flight Instructor
I would say that if you are demoing to a student for any time other than a tiny portion of the flight (less than a tenth of an hour) TO SOMEONE THAT IS ALREADY RATED IN THE AIRCRAFT, then:
1. Technically, according to the regs, he can't log the entire flight time as PIC.
2. If you are doing a demo to a rated pilot, of any maneuver that takes more than about 30 seconds, that's pretty unusual.
We aren't logging time to the nearest second, so the usual practice of "rounding" the rated student's "sole manipulator" time to the nearest tenth is reasonable.
12-04-2008 | 07:26 PM
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No. The private pilot must manipulate the controls to log the time as PIC. Dual given is not PIC time, just "dual given" in the instructor's logbook, and "dual received" in the students logbook. It has nothing to do with logging PIC time as stated in 61.51.
12-04-2008 | 07:28 PM
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From: 737/FO
Not if you are an ATP. Only a sport, recreational, private, or commercial pilot may log PIC as sole manipulator for an aircraft for which the pilot is rated.
12-05-2008 | 04:33 AM
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Our trip sheets just name "crew members" (pilots) not captian and fo. On the last leg of the trip, or when we get back somebody says "well I'll go do the paperwork," and he goes and does it. Nobody has ever asked to "speak with the captian," so I guess I would just say can I help you. We also trade off tasks such as flight planning, so typically when I do the flightplans I put my name as PIC because we don't know which legs we will be flying in the left seat at that point, so it just makes it eaiser. At least Im glad to see that USMCFLYR agrees with the way I log my time anybody else have any input?
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