But they are. They're prolonging this pandemic by continuing to be exposure risks. The only way that any of this is going to work is if we unify and isolate. The virus would burn itself out to a point where testing and tracking could mitigate against a second outbreak. Now that strategy is very much doubtful.

We can talk about moral arguments about the working poor in the United States and how our system is so unequal that some are forced to endanger their own lives to survive in America. But all the things you're worried about could be solved through stimulus and other safety nets. People shouldn't have to die so that the economy can survive.

Hey that sounds familiar, where have I heard that before. Oh this guy..



It sounds like you're going to get your wish. Lockdowns are lifting in the next month and most of the preventative measures are not in place. So as Trump said, we'll let it "wash over" the country. And we'll see how it goes. My personal prediction is that it will be catastrophic. Even with the "improved" antibody studies.

 

I don't necessarily disagree with much in your post. But technically by flattening the curve we are purposely prolonging the pandemic. If we just let the thing run wild it would be over far quicker(although with far higher fatality)

 

The models show that it's not a 1 for 1 trade off. Mitigation strategies do lessen the total number infected. But this half-ass lockdown might be push the number and duration up.

 

Dr Faucci has made multiple statements that we are trying to increase the length. And that if we let it run wild it would be over quicker. This spreads out the cases and allows hospitals to not be over run. It isn't complicated.

How would mitigation strategies that aren't perfect increase the amount of people infected VS doing nothing?

 

I get that. But introducing more exposure opportunity in the middle of a lockdown will make it go EVEN LONGER. A second or even a third wave.

 

​​​​​​We are far past trying to eraticate this thing by staying home. Experts will try to flatten the curve. Just let them make the recommendations and stop analyzing everything? Do the best we can but at some point the economy has to start turning and covid will still be in the population. Hopefully they strike a good balance.

 

Wait wait wait. Your under the impression that people are prolonging the pandemic by conducting business?

Are you also under the impression that the stay at home orders were to make the virus go away?

You do know that was never the plan right? The plan was to allow time for the medical industry to prepare. The ability to contain the virus was gone the day it left the lab or market whichever you believe. There is no containment plan. I thought only the Karen’s on Facebook thought the virus was going away.

Everyone is going to eventually get the virus.


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Hospitals are not overrun. My brother is a hospital executive for a multi location hospital in a very large city and my wife is a nurse and they both can attest that the hospitals are near empty with extremely low occupancy. From a managers planning point of view I was told “this was way overblown”. The nurses are sitting all day with very little work to do. There is no shortage on ventilators.

People with underlying health issues and especially those that have significantly exceeded the average life expectancy may die of this or something else but it will be reported as Covid. The same number games get used when an 85 year old man with heart disease dies from a heart attack while using a chainsaw after a hurricane but it is attributed to “death by hurricane.”


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Where is the hospital your brother is supposedly running? Montana or New York? Which department is your wife working for? ICU or pediatrics? Way to come up with an informed conclusion based on your brother and wife.

 

This is such crap. When a human dies because they had heart disease and then got Covid, THEY DIED BECAUSE OF COVID! Why is this so hard to understand? Their life prematurely ended because covid came along and mingled in a nice cocktail of (insert underlying condition). They would still be alive right now. It’s that simple. They may have died tomorrow because of crappy life choices, but that’s not what happened. My father was in Vietnam, his lungs are ****ed, should he just take it in the shorts for the economy? Can we not give these people a little time? Why is this so hard to comprehend?