It's just the flu!
#111
Thanks for your question.... I didn’t say he “runs a hospital” but he is in a state with moderate infections and my brother speaks with those in other states daily including colleagues specifically in the early hotspot of Seattle. We are in a different large city hours away. Funny thing is that you don’t have to be an ICU nurse to know what’s going on in the in ICU. My wife worked nights in the ED for years and fortunately for me she now doesn’t. Can you even imagine how big there network of people and knowledge is after 20 years each in medicine? I imagine you know a lot of people at other airlines right? And they all talk.
I feel very comfortable developing an informed decision based on the first hand information of those I know and respect. I read the actual data without the spin and editorial opinion and it agrees. Do you feel comfortable basing your opinion on the news media (pick any of them) who can’t even get the facts straight on any simple situation you have been involved in first hand? Just listen to their “aviation experts” and aviation reports in the simplest subject and all confidence is lost on their ability to factually describe most things and the responsibility is to become an informed and skeptical listener.
Not sure why I am even responding. Nothing good ever comes from a message board.
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"My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with a girl who saw Ferris pass-out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it’s pretty serious."
#115
Hospitals are not overrun. My brother is a hospital executive for a multi location hospital in a very large city and my wife is a nurse and they both can attest that the hospitals are near empty with extremely low occupancy. From a managers planning point of view I was told “this was way overblown”. The nurses are sitting all day with very little work to do. There is no shortage on ventilators.
People with underlying health issues and especially those that have significantly exceeded the average life expectancy may die of this or something else but it will be reported as Covid. The same number games get used when an 85 year old man with heart disease dies from a heart attack while using a chainsaw after a hurricane but it is attributed to “death by hurricane.”
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People with underlying health issues and especially those that have significantly exceeded the average life expectancy may die of this or something else but it will be reported as Covid. The same number games get used when an 85 year old man with heart disease dies from a heart attack while using a chainsaw after a hurricane but it is attributed to “death by hurricane.”
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#116
Over hyped.
https://twitter.com/lapublichealth/s...077487107?s=12
If the antibody testing we’ve seen at Stanford, in LA, and in Boston is typical of the nation as a whole, the actual case-fatality rate is WAY LESS than initially predicted and the spread is already far greater than we initially believed. We may have done far more damage with overzealous shutdowns than the virus would have done - or will do - with the disease.
ultimately, case-fatality rates may well resemble just a bad flu year. In the meantime, 30% of small businesses are probably gone forever.
https://twitter.com/lapublichealth/s...077487107?s=12
If the antibody testing we’ve seen at Stanford, in LA, and in Boston is typical of the nation as a whole, the actual case-fatality rate is WAY LESS than initially predicted and the spread is already far greater than we initially believed. We may have done far more damage with overzealous shutdowns than the virus would have done - or will do - with the disease.
ultimately, case-fatality rates may well resemble just a bad flu year. In the meantime, 30% of small businesses are probably gone forever.
#117
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This is such crap. When a human dies because they had heart disease and then got Covid, THEY DIED BECAUSE OF COVID! Why is this so hard to understand? Their life prematurely ended because covid came along and mingled in a nice cocktail of (insert underlying condition). They would still be alive right now. It’s that simple. They may have died tomorrow because of crappy life choices, but that’s not what happened. My father was in Vietnam, his lungs are ****ed, should he just take it in the shorts for the economy? Can we not give these people a little time? Why is this so hard to comprehend?
My mom died in February at age 61 from complications related to lung cancer. She smoked hard all her life and basically took no care of her health. Even if she got COVID to pin her death on COVID would completely ludacris. She was dying anyways, and much as it pains me to say, she basically did it to herself. To give her some more time, while nice for her, myself, and family yeah that would be nice. You know what else would be nice? Having a society to bring up her grandson (my son) for the REST of his life in a world not completely distorted from what we lived in up til ,oh, about February. But I'm really greedy and have no skin the in the game.
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#118
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
The way the reports keep rolling in and rolling in about the interesting manner in which deaths are recorded, that the survival rates are very high while the number of infected may be even higher than forecast (resulting in yet lower death rates still)....yeah, I'd be careful about loosely dropping "idiots" on people who disagree with you. But ya know, suit yourself.
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#120
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/20/coro...ted-cases.html
https://www.livescience.com/coronavi...-high-nyc.html
https://www.michigansthumb.com/news/...e-15208216.php
and as far as ‘idiots’ go, we know the current Coronavirus RNA assays for current infection have pi$$-poor predictive value positive AND negative. Given that the initial models were calling for 20 million dead in the US, it would appear the poorly informed alarmists were on the other side of this issue.
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