It's just the flu!
04-22-2020, 10:17 AM
#151
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Originally Posted by Karnak
You mean the doctor disciplined for sucking at his job while running a shady bio-scam business?
The guy who's research was funded by an anti-vaxxer group? No conflict there!
Good luck! Just finished fixing the "repairs" I made on my truck a couple of weeks ago.
The guy who's research was funded by an anti-vaxxer group? No conflict there!
Good luck! Just finished fixing the "repairs" I made on my truck a couple of weeks ago.
Point 1: When the article’s support to discredit Dr Neunenschwander includes and I quote
1. the word “quacks”
2. that the Dr. has “many strange beliefs”
3. He “ runs a for-profit company”. Oh no! Not profit! Pharmaceutical companies don’t make profit! Oh wait..
4. He “advertises disproven and unproven treatments, like homeopathy, pricey intravenous treatments, and much-criticized CEASE therapy.” Many people seek alternative medicine, he provides it. Chiropractic, Accupuncture, have long be criticized similarly. For some people that works and it’s a treatment an individual should have the right to choose.
That is amateur writing and pretty much a hit piece.
Point 2:
I dated a girl whose dad was a cardio vascular surgeon. Do you know how many times he got sued? A lot! Medical malpractice cases are very common. Just stating that a doctor has something on their record is really weak support.
point 3:
Look into Dr. Gary Fettke of Australia. I’m not gonna link, just search and YouTube him. See him speak in his own words. He contradicted the Australian government dietary recommendations and spoke out against sugar.
I‘m sick and tired of researching medical information and people to turn around and say just believe everything mainstream medicine says or you’re a _______. There is a TON of information out there.
point 4:
So what if Dr. Exely is funded by anti vaxxers? He studies aluminum affects in the brain, and Im glad someone does.
Should pro vaxx doctors be subject to the same scrutiny for accepting money from pro vaxx pharm? That would at least be consistent logic. And who has deeper pockets, the Phama industry of a bunch of ****ed off moms?
04-22-2020, 10:27 AM
#152
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Originally Posted by popcopy
04-22-2020, 10:35 AM
#153
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Originally Posted by block30
4. He “advertises disproven and unproven treatments, like homeopathy, pricey intravenous treatments, and much-criticized CEASE therapy.” Many people seek alternative medicine, he provides it. Chiropractic, Accupuncture, have long be criticized similarly. For some people that works and it’s a treatment an individual should have the right to choose.
04-22-2020, 10:57 AM
#154
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
If it worked, it wouldn't be called alternative medicine.
Oh do you deny practices that start outside generally accepted medicine later become mainstream? Hand washing ( Dr Semmelweiss) chiropracric, putting maggots on wounds...
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/alternative-medicine-becoming-mainstream
Last edited by block30; 04-22-2020 at 11:12 AM.
04-22-2020, 10:58 AM
#155
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
If it made doctors and drug companies a lot of money, it wouldn't be called alternative medicine.
You know how many orthopedic and neurosurgeons I've had try to talk me into complex/risky back, hip and hand surgeries over the years due to sports injuries? Plus the non-stop pushing of drugs that would have kept me in a narcotic-induced semi-coma for the better part of 15 years if I had "just listened to the experts"?
Modern medicine is often (not always) a racket. As a country, we are way too inclined to cut and medicate for the profit of the medical-industrial complex. Sometimes you have to go that route, but there are often more effective and less risky alternatives.
Last edited by Aldo Raine; 04-22-2020 at 11:09 AM.
04-22-2020, 11:03 AM
#156
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
If it worked, it wouldn't be called alternative medicine.
04-22-2020, 11:40 AM
#157
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Originally Posted by block30
Yeah, the flu kills more than 8,000, a lot more in fact. So I guess you’re not *technically* lying and that’s honestly the best thing I can say anything you post. Wah waaah.
04-22-2020, 11:50 AM
#158
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Originally Posted by WutFace
Keep moving those goalposts buddy.
04-22-2020, 12:53 PM
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Given the data coming out it's showing this is actually not as bad as the flu.
Given the amount of people that have been infected vs these that have died the rate of very low.
Sweden is proving you also don't need to shut everything down. Hopefully more States start ending three lockdowns.
Given the amount of people that have been infected vs these that have died the rate of very low.
Sweden is proving you also don't need to shut everything down. Hopefully more States start ending three lockdowns.
04-22-2020, 01:18 PM
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I'll post it again. Only 6 US states have yet met or eclipsed last seasons flu deaths, while most states are not even close. When you're only focused on the national number, you lack some context. NY, NJ, etc are grossly skewing the data. This is as of yesterday. For the 44 states that haven't met their Flu death tally from the corona virus, the average corona virus death toll sits at 24% of Flu deaths. Be afraid!!
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