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Old 05-12-2017 | 07:57 PM
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What is the possibility that this ae could make for some interesting drops for June and July new hires? Or will this cause the drops to snap back to reality with mainly NYC positions?
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Old 05-13-2017 | 06:00 AM
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There should be vacancies across the system on 7ER, 73N, 320, M88 and 717 once the dust settles. The results will take longer than usual to post, but once they are released the unfilled vacancies are easily calculated. By late May you will get facts vs opinions on new hire vacancies.
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Old 05-13-2017 | 06:37 AM
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What is the possibility that this ae could make for some interesting drops for June and July new hires? Or will this cause the drops to snap back to reality with mainly NYC positions?
My guess is the next 6 months of new hire assignments will be driven by training availability more than any other factor. My assumption is there will be vacancies in all the narrow bodies at most of the bases. In order to work around the massive training backlog the MOAB is going to create, it is my belief DAL will send new hires down the path of least resistance.

I also predict long delays between indoc and sim training for new hires.

The usual disclaimers apply. I'm just a line puke with no inside connections and a little bit of common sense.
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Old 05-13-2017 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
My guess is the next 6 months of new hire assignments will be driven by training availability more than any other factor. My assumption is there will be vacancies in all the narrow bodies at most of the bases. In order to work around the massive training backlog the MOAB is going to create, it is my belief DAL will send new hires down the path of least resistance.

I also predict long delays between indoc and sim training for new hires.

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I agree except the huge training churn for this AE will mainly start after the Summer push.

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Old 05-13-2017 | 07:14 AM
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I agree except the huge training churn for this AE will mainly start after the Summer push.

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I think the training churn is being overplayed a bit. This is a one year bid. If it were broken up into 4 quarterly bids with overall the same positions offered we would not be discussing the churn.
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Old 05-13-2017 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I think the training churn is being overplayed a bit. This is a one year bid. If it were broken up into 4 quarterly bids with overall the same positions offered we would not be discussing the churn.
I've always been confused about the worth of a 365 day AE/MD bid for the company when you take into consideration follow on bids. Don't all the successful bidders of one AE have to be trained before follow on (AE) successful bidders in the same category? How does this work?

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Old 05-13-2017 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Brick
What is the possibility that this ae could make for some interesting drops for June and July new hires? Or will this cause the drops to snap back to reality with mainly NYC positions?
With the hiring that's projected, very few NH's will be stuck in NYC against their will for more than an AE. While it will remain the junior base, one of the biggest mitigating factors (the 88) being gone will reduce the frantic urgency to avoid it for many. It will continue its prevalence in the drops, but will be far from the mandatory sentence it was in the past.
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Old 05-13-2017 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
I've always been confused about the worth of a 365 day AE/MD bid for the company when you take into consideration follow on bids. Don't all the successful bidders of one AE have to be trained before follow on (AE) successful bidders in the same category? How does this work?

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Denny - I don't think is true. Not 100% sure but I remember this exact discussion and I thought the answer was No. I am on the way out so I don't have time to break out the PWA and look it up.

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Old 05-13-2017 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I think the training churn is being overplayed a bit. This is a one year bid. If it were broken up into 4 quarterly bids with overall the same positions offered we would not be discussing the churn.

When I say Huge training churn I don't mean anything that can not be handled. I just mean they can delay training until after the busy summer season. I do disagree with the second half of your post. When was the last time we had 4 bids within a 12 month period with over 500 AE positions on each bid?

I don't ever remember 4 big positive bids in one year.

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Old 05-13-2017 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Denny - I don't think is true. Not 100% sure but I remember this exact discussion and I thought the answer was No. I am on the way out so I don't have time to break out the PWA and look it up.

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You are most likely right but I don't see how seniority can be honored between different AE bids. The company must hold back training slots for follow on AE's. It doesn't interest me enough to look it up myself!

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