Short Call QOL Improvement
11-03-2018 | 12:40 PM
#122
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I still don’t understand the 35 hour comment.
11-03-2018 | 02:38 PM
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Greater flexibility will result in greater productivity. All they did was remove systemic barriers to using more SC (up to 7/month) and shorten the cycle to make “rest” a useless requirement. 10 hours off at times when the body is incapable of rest and being back on duty when the body is in need of rest is going broaden the usability of SC. This pre-117 and regional work rules (or lack of) all over again.
I still don’t understand the 35 hour comment.
I still don’t understand the 35 hour comment.
11-03-2018 | 02:51 PM
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He gets in at midnight from a reserve assignment and the next day is assigned a long call trip with a 5am report the following day. That gives him 29 hours off between trips. My bad on the original math but same principle. I don’t know how releasing short call pilots 3 hours early impacts those trip assignments.
11-03-2018 | 02:53 PM
#125
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He gets in at midnight from a reserve assignment and the next day is assigned a long call trip with a 5am report the following day. That gives him 29 hours off between trips. My bad on the original math but same principle. I don’t know how releasing short call pilots 3 hours early impacts those trip assignments.
It has nothing to do with it. 9 hour SCs , calling and getting released in 7 hours, is a good thing, but its not cool to be positive around here.
Every supposed bad thing about 9 hour SCs is just "what if" speculation that is totally meaningless because scheduling can always release guys early and routinely did when they needed somebody.
Being on SC for 3 hours less every period is a guaranteed fact for every Pilot that sits SC. All the nonsense about making us more productive is just that - nonsense.
Like I said we enough real "turds" to deal with in our PWA, there is absolutely no need to spin good stuff into more turds.
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11-03-2018 | 02:57 PM
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Oh, my point was about circadian rythyms. A shorter window means the cycle will be unpredictable and can shift to undesirable times much easier. This could become a WOCL issue. I personally can’t force myself to sleep too early in the day. Also caffeine consumption late in the day can cause sleep loss. It must be true, I was counseled about it on Rally. Fact is daily adjusting to a non 12/24 hour cycle is hard on the body. There is a reason international pilots age quicker. BTW it’s now illegal to use over the counter sleep aids like Tylenol PM.
How often do you sit reserve? I have been doing it on and off since 2007 and there has been zero predictability in my SC starts and reserve callouts.
Any supposed relationship between 9 hours and unpredictable cycles is just pure speculation.
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11-03-2018 | 03:09 PM
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It has nothing to do with it. 9 hour SCs , calling and getting released in 7 hours, is a good thing, but its not cool to be positive around here.
Every supposed bad thing about 9 hour SCs is just "what if" speculation that is totally meaningless because scheduling can always release guys early and routinely did when they needed somebody.
Being on SC for 3 hours less every period is a guaranteed fact for every Pilot that sits SC. All the nonsense about making us more productive is just that - nonsense.
Like I said we enough real "turds" to deal with in our PWA, there is absolutely no need to spin good stuff into more turds.
Scoop
Every supposed bad thing about 9 hour SCs is just "what if" speculation that is totally meaningless because scheduling can always release guys early and routinely did when they needed somebody.
Being on SC for 3 hours less every period is a guaranteed fact for every Pilot that sits SC. All the nonsense about making us more productive is just that - nonsense.
Like I said we enough real "turds" to deal with in our PWA, there is absolutely no need to spin good stuff into more turds.
Scoop
11-03-2018 | 03:37 PM
#128
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Ok. My opinion is this is just the beginning of a productivity plan that uses reserves more and moves us away from a long call dominant system. I’ll quit posting about this but I reserve the right to post, “I told you so” when this becomes evident and requires negotiating capital to fix. More QOL lost for reserves by company discretion will be the end result of their productivity push. This shorter window provides them more flexibility with no loss in coverage. I know I’m to early for some but ask yourself if my thinking is possible an then ask yourself if the company would like to find additional efficiency with regard to reserve staffing.
Absolutely. If our reserve system goes downhill and we start flying more than we all need to hear about it.
OBTW - I agree the company is always for ways to increase our productivity and I believe that they will continue to do so but like I said lets concentrate on the turds that already exist vs turds that may be.
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11-03-2018 | 03:56 PM
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I admittedly haven’t read the entire thread so forgive me if it’s been theorized, but I’d bet the company will point to this “gift” during the upcoming negotiations and “ask” for more short call periods each month. Just a gut feeling.
11-03-2018 | 04:46 PM
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1) SC has NOT been changed in a codified way. The company can still assign SC up to 12 hours as before if needed.
b) If you are a senior guy on reserve you will definitely do 7 SC assignments each bid period
Finally, this is a horrible change that has made a hostile bidding environment for reserve. If you are senior you should demand to sit longer periods on SC.
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