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Old 05-15-2020, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right
I'm not trying to make sense. Just trying to have a little fun with this thing. How would we go about making the software meltdown based on a combined bid of the group being xxx?

Just ideas, nothing and not meant to be a bid strategy at all. You just can't not be a prude. You must be a joy to fly with.

You're probably one of those guys that put all their bids in when you got the note form the kompany aren't you rather than waiting for the actual bid to be open. Gave them some real good intel. Thanks.
I’m awful to fly with, tbh
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Old 05-15-2020, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bugman61
No it has not happened yet. But based on what we have seen it’s quite possible that they will only offer the company wide plan. If ALPA doesn’t sign off on that as part of an agreement are you saying that it would still be legal?

No the shared rewards are not in there. There probably was some type of approval from ALPA when it started. Maybe not formal but something. And even if there wasn’t, letting that plan continue without objection doesn’t prevent them from objecting to something else.
so the shared rewards are cash compensation to pilots outside of the pwa?

If so seems the cash compensation horse outside of the pwa has already left the barn.
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Old 05-15-2020, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right
Why the hate? What did I ever do to you? I disagree with you pretty much most of the time, but I try not to get personal or mean. Just facts. You and OOFF got to be mean. I can take jabs, but you guys are spiteful and full of hate towards me. It shows in both your word choice and tone.

Pretty sure we can max the confuser into a meltdown based on how we all collectively bid. Or not. Wasn't intending it to be a recommendation on a bidding strategy. Just something fun to talk about - so I thought, but you guys got to be you.

I'm on a KLOA. So there won't be a June PBS bid out of me.
If you think not putting in a bid will break the system, you don't understand how computers work. In fact, it would be the company's wet dream for none of us to bid because it gives the program the most flexibility to save the most money.
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Old 05-15-2020, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
If you think not putting in a bid will break the system, you don't understand how computers work. In fact, it would be the company's wet dream for none of us to bid because it gives the program the most flexibility to save the most money.
Huh wut? What are you talking about? Have you read anything I've written this morning?
I'm not putting in a PBS bid for June. I'm on a KLOA. I will be putting in a MD bid for this MOAD-FUD exercise. In jest I've been discussing how to make the little commodore 64 melt down. You obviously have no sense of humor.
As far as computers, enlighten us professor megabyte, I'm all ears.
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Old 05-15-2020, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
I’m awful to fly with, tbh
thanks for being honest for once.
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Old 05-15-2020, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right
Huh wut? What are you talking about? Have you read anything I've written this morning?
I'm not putting in a PBS bid for June. I'm on a KLOA. I will be putting in a MD bid for this MOAD-FUD exercise. In jest I've been discussing how to make the little commodore 64 melt down. You obviously have no sense of humor.
As far as computers, enlighten us professor megabyte, I'm all ears.
maybe it’s just not as funny as you think it is
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Old 05-15-2020, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BobZ
so the shared rewards are cash compensation to pilots outside of the pwa?

If so seems the cash compensation horse outside of the pwa has already left the barn.

That’s not how it works. Can they decide to give bonuses just to 320 pilots? Or pilots who’s last name starts with S? According to your logic all those things would be fine because of the shared rewards.
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Old 05-15-2020, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
All the 777 guys should wait until they get a training date before they retire, and retire on the training day(if they retire). Then on that day, put in your 2 week notice. That seems like common sense. Why would they retire now and lose out on the money they could get sitting at home waiting on training?
Why not actually go to training at that point? It would be easy money for them. Two weeks notice? That's not even a thing WRT retiring? Why wouldn't someone in that situation at least go through training? Get paid well for a bit longer and collect another type. In the unlikely event it gets really ugly, "stop the sim, its been real y'all". Otherwise once trained, might as well do OE/TOE. Then ACARS on the last inbound and request the retirement fire hoses. If I was in that zone that's probably what I'd do.
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Old 05-15-2020, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Phins2right
So you are telling me this is the last bid we'll see until.....not hardly. Get over yourself. We got many more of these ahead of us.

So if you wanted to cause maximum confuser effort to achieve meltdown, how would we do it?
I might be wrong, but I'd think every pilot would need to bid the next lowest equipment with a long course so that it forces a long training event AND causes maximum cascading displacements down the list. IE a displaced 330 pilot bids the ER which would force ER guy to go to 73N/320, and continue down from there. If that 330 guy bid straight to the A220 or something it would cause less of a hassle for the company (less total displacements). Also maybe throw in bidding for a different base too, because maybe they'll factor in the moving costs?

I'm not advocating for any of this though, I'm just answering your question. I'm gonna bid for what I want! (To hopefully stay in my base and not get furloughed!!)
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Old 05-15-2020, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bugman61
That’s not how it works. Can they decide to give bonuses just to 320 pilots? Or pilots who’s last name starts with S? According to your logic all those things would be fine because of the shared rewards.
I dont think thats the logic at all.

The shared rewards are uniformly paid. To all pilots. All employees.

there has been no proffer of compensation incentives for early retirement. So this is all a non issue.

But IF the company offered a package outside of the pwa, uniformly to ALL employees as with shared rewards precedent i think that horse has left the barn.

And if such an offer precipitated 2000 pilots to take the offer.....any mec that grieved such an event wud be recalled in a NY minit.
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