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12-17-2025 | 06:25 AM

#5921

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There’s no snark at all in what I wrote. It is entirely factual.

12-17-2025 | 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FangsF15

Source? I'm not doubting you, just wondering where you saw/heard that.

Source: "trust me bro. They won't hire me but I know more about your company than you do. My buddy told me so."

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12-18-2025 | 06:20 AM

#5923

Whoopsmybad

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Originally Posted by Ripinpeace

If they hire 1,200 with the Max10’s on hold, A35K’s delayed to 27’, future 787’s😛 to go, and 220’s still bottle necked than I’d absolutely bet on 2,000 again when all those supply chain constraints open up or at least close to it. Still have just over 2,500 pilots retiring 2026 through 2030 or 15% of the pilot group (of course doesn’t account for the other forms of attrition). For comparison United has 3,200 retirements over the same footprint.

Throw in managements clear desire to focus growth internationally over the next few years alongside a ton of NB’s I don’t think it’s that crazy to see 1,800-2,000 again. And no, raising the TLV and more GS (sorry IA) only works to a degree.. they will have to hire a lot more. We are plagued by deliveries more-so than UA and AA right now. When the 35K and following 787’s roll in we’ll be chilling

You know a lot of those NB planes are replacements right? We have a couple fleets going away with those new planes coming on property.

12-18-2025 | 06:57 AM

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FL370esq

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Originally Posted by Ripinpeace

Will be ~1,200 hired by EOY 26’. I’ve gained new foresight since then AUS320 fluke.

1,200 seems to high with current fleet plans. I'm gonna guess 750-800 with most of that front loaded.

12-18-2025 | 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FL370esq

1,200 seems to high with current fleet plans. I'm gonna guess 750-800 with most of that front loaded.

We're short staffed right now. ~500 retirements next year, plus some deliveries, plus running a little less hot (lol), 1,200 sounds entirely plausible.

12-18-2025 | 08:53 AM

#5926

Avgeek7248

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Originally Posted by Khantahr

We're short staffed right now. ~500 retirements next year, plus some deliveries, plus running a little less hot (lol), 1,200 sounds entirely plausible.

plausible yes but so far they seem content on running the operation hot and just offering IA’s to supplement lack of reserve coverage. I imagine IA’s are significantly cheaper than paying the proper number of pilots required to staff all categories. Great for those who love to work hard and take in the cash. Sucks for guys like me who just want to have schedule flexibility and drop/swap stuff when needed.