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Old 12-30-2025 | 09:02 AM
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Thank you for all the answers and tips. I’m currently a bus driver, and would like to keep flying it.

With that said, being based in DTW is more important to me. Sounds like there’s a good shot at getting it fairly quickly.

I would bet my life savings that I will have the lowest seniority in my class. The last four of my soc. is that bad…
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Old 12-30-2025 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by a2cbus
Thank you for all the answers and tips. I’m currently a bus driver, and would like to keep flying it.

With that said, being based in DTW is more important to me. Sounds like there’s a good shot at getting it fairly quickly.

I would bet my life savings that I will have the lowest seniority in my class. The last four of my soc. is that bad…

You can break your seat lock after 1 year if you happen to not get the bus in indoc. You'll have to select a 320 base that is not offered on your indoc awarded airplane to break the seat lock as well. Good luck.
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Old 12-30-2025 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by planejoe
You can break your seat lock after 1 year if you happen to not get the bus in indoc. You'll have to select a 320 base that is not offered on your indoc awarded airplane to break the seat lock as well. Good luck.
To make that more clearly stated, you can only break your seat lock after a year if you get awarded an airplane in indoc that is not available in your base of choice. In other words, if you still wanted to be DTW based, you'd have to bid the 717 then bid 320 in any base but dtw/atl
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Old 12-30-2025 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
To make that more clearly stated, you can only break your seat lock after a year if you get awarded an airplane in indoc that is not available in your base of choice. In other words, if you still wanted to be DTW based, you'd have to bid the 717 then bid 320 in any base but dtw/atl
Or bid the bus somewhere else and take a transfer on a monthly AE which probably won’t take as long as an additional IQ on Va Ave. Going to and from another plane just to maybe get the BES you want ever so slightly sooner is a lot of squeeze for a little juice.
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Old 12-30-2025 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
To make that more clearly stated, you can only break your seat lock after a year if you get awarded an airplane in indoc that is not available in your base of choice. In other words, if you still wanted to be DTW based, you'd have to bid the 717 then bid 320 in any base but dtw/atl
Or if you are unable to hold your equipment in a base. If you’re awarded NYC320B in indoc and after a year still can’t hold DTW320B, you could break your new hire seat lock to go to the 73N or 717 in DTW.

just be aware that using this add your existing seat lock to your new seat lock. so you would have a roughly three-year seat lock on your new equipment.
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Old 12-30-2025 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Anyone bidding a NB and expecting nothing but 1 leg days is destined to be disappointed. Penalty laps may be psychologically annoying but the percent of commutable trips has been pretty good.
People need to realize this before asking for higher ADG in the next survey. Before 5:15 ADG was a thing, penalty laps were less common, and you could have that 2 hour block day and be done with it. Now, if you have 1 leg home that leaves you a couple hours under ADG, you best believe the company is going to use you for that penalty lap. Why wouldn't they? Increasing ADG will just give them more room to do this. Higher credit per day is out there if you want it, but be careful what you wish for...higher ADG isn't free money.
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Old 12-30-2025 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by immolated
People need to realize this before asking for higher ADG in the next survey. Before 5:15 ADG was a thing, penalty laps were less common, and you could have that 2 hour block day and be done with it. Now, if you have 1 leg home that leaves you a couple hours under ADG, you best believe the company is going to use you for that penalty lap. Why wouldn't they? Increasing ADG will just give them more room to do this. Higher credit per day is out there if you want it, but be careful what you wish for...higher ADG isn't free money.
…but it’s still more money/less days worked. 12:00 ADG is my goal.
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Old 12-30-2025 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GutterGuard
On top of the other reasons listed, maybe you want to drop your trip(s) to make yourself more available for premium flying.
I get it, I play the game sometimes as well but I don’t think we need to change the pwa so that everyone “can” play the drop everything and pick up scraps game. Honestly I’m pretty happy just flying my trips as a mid-seniority line holder most of the time. Pilots get such bad fomo when we hear war stories about super senior professional game players. If I were king for a day I’d spend our negotiating capital making flying a normal awarded schedule as good as possible for as much money as possible.

There will always be PCS ninjas out there ninja-ing. I’d guess most pilots just want an easy button.
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Old 12-30-2025 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
Or if you are unable to hold your equipment in a base. If you’re awarded NYC320B in indoc and after a year still can’t hold DTW320B, you could break your new hire seat lock to go to the 73N or 717 in DTW.

just be aware that using this add your existing seat lock to your new seat lock. so you would have a roughly three-year seat lock on your new equipment.
What happens when you’re seat locked on a fleet and then that fleet is removed from
a base your in. Do you get MD to another base that has that fleet? Or can you break seat lock to keep your basing. Ex: DTW717 pilots forced to ATL (assuming dtw717 closes) to ride out the rest of their 717 seat lock.
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Old 12-30-2025 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
Is this not what we expected when we wanted to bring all that regional flying back to mainline? I'm not a fan of how often I say to myself "hey I used to do this turn on the CRJ".
I sure as hell would feel a lot more willing to fly RJ routes for mainline pay with a mainline employee number. The main reason I was so burnt out on it is because it was for subcontractor pay with a (exploited) subcontractors employee number.
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