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Old 09-09-2021, 05:35 PM
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I got the assessment invite email the other day and I've been prepping with the cut-e practice tests. Pretty freaked out as this is an awesome opportunity so don't want to drop the ball. I was wondering if anyone may have some words of wisdom on taking the assessment? From previous replies it seems like the actual test is a little easier than the cut-e tests.
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Old 09-09-2021, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tankerclown23 View Post
I keep hearing the “it’s yours to lose if you get to the interview” but also see 11/14, 8/10, 9/12, etc. Anyone have any idea what’s holding back those 1-3 per interview group? I’m headed to the interview on the 30th and have been doing prep, but can’t help being anxious still.
I don't fully agree with the “it’s yours to lose if you get to the interview" idea. You are talking to a bunch of us who DID get hired. It's easy for us to look back and think, "yep, it worked out for me, it'll work for you if you do the same stuff I did." I do think if they spend the time and money to bring you in for an interview they want to hire you, BUT I think they also expect to not hire at least some people, otherwise why interview at all?

I know quite a few people who didn't get hired (or were hired on their second go, myself included), and it wasn't for lack of prep or taking the interview seriously. Sometimes you have a bad day, sometimes you don't gel with the interviewers, etc. Yes, some people have a bad attitude or don't prep but I think that's a small percentage of those not hired.

At the end of the day a multi-million dollar career is riding on the interview (no pressure), so unless you are the coolest dude out there you are going to be nervous, and rightly so. It's how you manage that stress that's important. Hopefully you use it to keep you sharp and prep'ing.

Link up with the other pilots in your interview group, have dinner the might before, walk over as a group in the morning, etc. Good luck!
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Old 09-09-2021, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tankerclown23 View Post
I keep hearing the “it’s yours to lose if you get to the interview” but also see 11/14, 8/10, 9/12, etc. Anyone have any idea what’s holding back those 1-3 per interview group? I’m headed to the interview on the 30th and have been doing prep, but can’t help being anxious still.

Well I can’t tell you the specifics but really put off a bad vibe to our entire group, he carried himself with way to much “I’m better than you attitude”. This guy didn’t even take the MMPI. He did his interview and then disappeared. No one knows. (CA at a regional)

One guy showed up a few minutes late and seemed to be frazzled most of the morning. (Working at a regional)

Last guy seemed like a great guy, we were all surprised when he came out and wished us all luck then left. (I think he was regionals as well)

Our group (morning 10) was 5 Mil trained, 1 CBP, and the rest civilian. The afternoon 4 were all working at regionals, no military.

On a different note, I’m one of the Mil guys. I’m also probably one of the few, if not the only, guy who didn’t do any interview prep. I may be wrong about that. I talked with 1 guy who interviewed a month ago and got advice from my buddy who interviewed was hired by SWA about 5 years ago. Quite a few people called me crazy for not doing prep either. I honestly didn’t even talk out my “go to TMAAT” answers either.


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Old 09-09-2021, 08:34 PM
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Interviewed five years ago. We met up at the Hilton across the street the night prior for a beer. That was a good move for all as it broke the ice and helped smooth the nervous chatter on interview day. Three guys didn’t get the job in my group.

First guy was a coast guard pilot. Showed up in a weird tan suit with a glossy pink tie. Seemed okay when I talked with him, but his demeanor screamed ‘outlier’.
Second guy was AF F16 guy. He argued with us all why his Air Force time printouts would suffice and that no logbook was required. Even the other military guys pointed out that Delta asks specifically for a logbook, so you should probably bring a logbook.
Third guy didn’t really speak to anyone all day.

It’s a small sample size example, but it seemed to me all the ‘normal’ types got the job. I flew recently with a guy who’d previously been on the Delta interview team. He had some great stories. One common theme was that most of us aren’t as good at interviewing as we’d like to think. He was a fan of interview prep and said he could usually tell those that used it.
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Old 09-09-2021, 08:35 PM
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Hey guys, I received an email with the invitation for the assessment test. I've been freaking out about it after taking some of the recommended cut-e test. I was hoping someone who has already taken the test could shed some light on the difficulty of the actual thing and if they have any words of wisdom. I really hate to waste this opportunity and mess up on the test.
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3 View Post
From FB post.

Here is an update on what to expect:

8 sections

Spatial orientation (ndb/rmi in relation to aircraft-its timed for 3 mins)

Reaction speed (click when two shapes match each other)

Deductive logical thinking (sudoku style—which shape should be in which position on the grid)

Monitoring ability(how many dots are moving around in a circle)

Multi-tasking capability (3 tasks at once—-adding/subtracting, determining if shapes are duplicated in a row of other shapes, and a slider like the game asteroids where you avoid objects to prevent a crash)

Auditory comprehension (audio clips of clearance read backs or approach clearances and you have to choose the correct answer from 3 multiple choice options)

Complex control (use your mouse to guide your plane through a series of rotating circles)

Work-related behavior(standard personality test)
Can anyone who took the assessment confirm that the „Applied Numeracy” in the CUT-E prep is not one of the sections assessed?

Also, does anyone have anymore feedback on the personality evaluation? For those who took it any sugestiom or feedback? I understand its nothing similar to the Hogan, any idea how much Delta dissects this part of the test, or is it just probing for a good employee not a “specific personality fit” like United ?

For those successful how much did you prep for the online phase?

Thank you for any answers and further insights.

Cheers all!
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Old 09-10-2021, 03:36 AM
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Welp, finally called and got my interview setup for 10/07. This whole process has really been surprisingly easy. Didn't prep for the assessment(IMO no need) and due to a crazy AMCI work rotation, I didn't get a chance to call to schedule my interview till I got off(about 9 days later). Luckily, the lady on the phone didn't seem to care about the week limit in the email.

Anyhow, I guess I should do some prep for the interview. Looking for good suggestions since I've never needed to do it before.

For reference my rough times/experience:
Less than 3 yrs of 121(all in the 777)
6k TT
4k PIC (most TPIC, couple hundred in Jet)
2k SIC in 777(international ACMI)
Most of my time is 135 on demand cargo SA227.
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Old 09-10-2021, 04:23 AM
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Can anyone who took the assessment confirm that the „Applied Numeracy” in the CUT-E prep is not one of the sections assessed?

Also, does anyone have anymore feedback on the personality evaluation? For those who took it any sugestiom or feedback? I understand its nothing similar to the Hogan, any idea how much Delta dissects this part of the test, or is it just probing for a good employee not a “specific personality fit” like United ?

For those successful how much did you prep for the online phase?

Thank you for any answers and further insights.

Cheers all!
My $.02. I used the trainer for 5 days before I took the actual assessment. I took it on a Friday, got the invite the following Tuesday.

1. Spatial orientation was just like the website trainer. Straight forward. I just looked at the arrow on the RMI and thought to myself it’s pointing at my 4 o’clock on the instrument, then pick the plane position that puts the fix at your 4 o’clock.
2. Reaction speed- the shapes on the real test are easier. There’s like 4 different shapes and they don’t try and trick you with subtleties. Gives immediate feedback right or wrong
3. Deductive Logical thinking: this one straight up sucked. I recommend using sudoku because it’s basically sudoku but with shapes. This is the one that was harder than the trainer on “hard.” I don’t think I did well on this one.
4. Monitoring: When there’s more than about five or six dots it’s just a guessing game. The dots move fast just like this trainer. I saw a bunch of red (incorrect responses from me) on this one.
5. Multi tasking is much like the trainer, gives you feedback. they used shapes instead of numbers. There was like 5-6 different shapes.
6. Auditory comprehension is 18 minutes to listen to 18 ATC clearances. You’re able to listen to them up to three times before choosing the answer of what was said. You’re allowed to have a pen and paper for that one and write down everything. The clearances are given in different language accents, But I’m pretty sure I got everyone of them right. I’m at the tail number, approach name or name of agency. What do you wanna pay attention to his heading squawk code, runway, altitude etc. Easy.
7. Complex control: i’ll be going to seem weird on the trainer, but the real thing was actually a lot easier. You’re basically flying yourself through these little openings in these structures as they approach you. It’ll probably make more sense once you’re doing it, but I didn’t have any issues, I thought it was pretty simple
8. The personality test: you have choose which statement you agree with more. That is what it is. Can’t really prepare for that one
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Old 09-10-2021, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Nvrgofullretard View Post
If you make it to the interview, it is definitely yours to lose.
I actually disagree. The team makes the wrong call on some great candidates at times. Sometimes it’s HR, sometimes it’s a pilot interviewer and sometimes it’s the shrink. Many of those folks come back in 12 months and get hired without changing anything about themselves and just mesh better with a different interview panel.

There’s a convincing argument to be made that most people overestimate their ability to evaluate others accurately…and having made up their mind about someone in the first 60” of interaction they then spend the next 45 minutes simply justifying their initial position. Ana Montes didn’t have a successful career as a Cuban spy because humans are good at evaluating others in a 45 minute interview.

Do the best you can, and don’t take it personally if this particular job doesn’t work out. There’s a very good chance they just got it wrong. Personally, I think the world could probably use a few more green suits ;-).
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Old 09-10-2021, 05:06 AM
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It sounds like most people have been getting interview invite relatively quickly after taking the assessment, has that been the consensus? Or has it taken a few days for others after taking the assessment to hear anything back about interviewing?
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