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02-21-2026 | 04:43 AM
#4781
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Another RR scenario on reserve. Haven't had this happen in a bit.
Morning of day 2 of 2. Wake up in hotel, see a CNO that rotation has changed, and I now have a new airport report 4-5 hours after the original show, to operate a new flight. Same city pair plus same DH, just a few hours later.
Lets say you don't own a cell phone, or check ICrew on the road, you're just going off your printed rotation. You're not contactable in the hotel, not required to utilize CNO's, so how's the official by the book notification supposed to work here? Technically, you'd just show up at original time, scan on with your badge, get the red light, gate agent brings up crew list and you're not on it, and that's your official notification that your rotation has changed?
Morning of day 2 of 2. Wake up in hotel, see a CNO that rotation has changed, and I now have a new airport report 4-5 hours after the original show, to operate a new flight. Same city pair plus same DH, just a few hours later.
Lets say you don't own a cell phone, or check ICrew on the road, you're just going off your printed rotation. You're not contactable in the hotel, not required to utilize CNO's, so how's the official by the book notification supposed to work here? Technically, you'd just show up at original time, scan on with your badge, get the red light, gate agent brings up crew list and you're not on it, and that's your official notification that your rotation has changed?
02-21-2026 | 10:38 AM
#4782
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Unless the other pilot decides to be a pal and tell you that your collective report is later and they have already changed the van time…
02-21-2026 | 12:39 PM
#4783
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Your original show time is just considered the beginning of a pseudo-RAP and your FDP starts at the new report time. Your LATT is calculated based on the three scenarios outlined in the SRH pg 178-179. It's a must read for RES and REG to stay out of trouble and keep the company from jerking us around on delays.
02-21-2026 | 12:44 PM
#4784
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Quick RES GS question: your schedule is X-X-R-... when you get a 3-day GS. Day-1 is a DH, day-2 is 8-hour fly and day-3 is DH home. (first two are on X-days)
Since DH is credit, and credit pays at the end of the trip (a RES day) does that mean I just worked the day-1 DH for free?
Since DH is credit, and credit pays at the end of the trip (a RES day) does that mean I just worked the day-1 DH for free?
02-21-2026 | 12:49 PM
#4785
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Doesn't matter. Since YOU didn't acknowledge until your original show time, your show time stands. The other pilot's LATT may be different than yours in this case.
Your original show time is just considered the beginning of a pseudo-RAP and your FDP starts at the new report time. Your LATT is calculated based on the three scenarios outlined in the SRH pg 178-179. It's a must read for RES and REG to stay out of trouble and keep the company from jerking us around on delays.
Your original show time is just considered the beginning of a pseudo-RAP and your FDP starts at the new report time. Your LATT is calculated based on the three scenarios outlined in the SRH pg 178-179. It's a must read for RES and REG to stay out of trouble and keep the company from jerking us around on delays.
02-21-2026 | 01:49 PM
#4786
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From: Pilot
Quick RES GS question: your schedule is X-X-R-... when you get a 3-day GS. Day-1 is a DH, day-2 is 8-hour fly and day-3 is DH home. (first two are on X-days)
Since DH is credit, and credit pays at the end of the trip (a RES day) does that mean I just worked the day-1 DH for free?
Since DH is credit, and credit pays at the end of the trip (a RES day) does that mean I just worked the day-1 DH for free?
These are the items that pay on the day of the duty period:
Block
DH
Minutes under
or
Duty period minimum of 2:00 if the above items total to less than 2:00. In this case the above items still get rolled into the 2:00 DPM.
02-21-2026 | 03:28 PM
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A company representative (aka coworker aka other pilot) informing you of the change to your schedule CAN count as notification. I suppose if it was by text and you never respond, one could say contact wasn't made, but if you respond "OK" in text your response/notification is probably discoverable. In any case, if it was personally spoken the SRH clearly says that it counts as contact.
02-21-2026 | 03:30 PM
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02-21-2026 | 04:41 PM
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That was my point. Some of us want to start the clock, because reporting at original time gets it ticking toward EDP (your FDP starts at report if you don’t ack the change and leave the hotel). Some of us want to stay in the hotel as long as possible (this is a RAP from your original show time and you’re on duty the same amount of time for less pay). Personally, I’d prefer the extra hour(s) of pay…
02-21-2026 | 07:35 PM
#4790
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Also curious about this.. It's always a manual call from crew scheduling too, even with auto-accept and auto-acknowledge on for a specific rotation that reports in 18+ hours. Why isn't this just run through ARCOS?
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