Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
03-07-2026 | 08:47 PM
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counterpoint, we flew approximately the same number of block hours in 2025 as we did in 2019 with almost 3,000 more pilots. When it takes 12 minutes to move to the next pilot, and there are dozens of pilots who have no intention of actually flying said slip, and you must do that before using reserves to cover the trip, no amount of staffing will solve that.
im not saying we give this up for nothing, but 2 step trip coverage + WS before reserves absolutely creates a problem no level of staffing would solve.
im not saying we give this up for nothing, but 2 step trip coverage + WS before reserves absolutely creates a problem no level of staffing would solve.
03-08-2026 | 03:50 AM
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counterpoint, we flew approximately the same number of block hours in 2025 as we did in 2019 with almost 3,000 more pilots. When it takes 12 minutes to move to the next pilot, and there are dozens of pilots who have no intention of actually flying said slip, and you must do that before using reserves to cover the trip, no amount of staffing will solve that.
im not saying we give this up for nothing, but 2 step trip coverage + WS before reserves absolutely creates a problem no level of staffing would solve.
im not saying we give this up for nothing, but 2 step trip coverage + WS before reserves absolutely creates a problem no level of staffing would solve.
03-08-2026 | 06:13 AM
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What’s a SIL
the optimizer
LCA trip releases
PB days
reliability letters
sick call witch hunts
And more….
Focus of effort…. Everyone at an airline works to support the pilots. We are the focus of effort. Without pilots, nothing happens. Until they realize that again, the airline will continue to slowly circle…
And before those of you that don’t understand focus of effort get all ****y, go look it up. 20 years as a USMC pilot, how often where we the focus of effort? Exactly zero. Doesn’t mean your job isn’t important, just identifies a potential singular point of failure.
03-08-2026 | 07:42 AM
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counterpoint, we flew approximately the same number of block hours in 2025 as we did in 2019 with almost 3,000 more pilots. When it takes 12 minutes to move to the next pilot, and there are dozens of pilots who have no intention of actually flying said slip, and you must do that before using reserves to cover the trip, no amount of staffing will solve that.
im not saying we give this up for nothing, but 2 step trip coverage + WS before reserves absolutely creates a problem no level of staffing would solve.
im not saying we give this up for nothing, but 2 step trip coverage + WS before reserves absolutely creates a problem no level of staffing would solve.
Literally any eligible pilot with a QS in can raise their hand for a QS trip. When nobody does, auto-accept had nothing to do with it.
If anything, QS are shining a bright light on the fact that auto-accept was never the fundamental problem.
03-08-2026 | 07:49 AM
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I can see a viewpoint that blames auto-accept for 23M7 usage, but now that QS are a thing, I don't see how auto-accept can be blamed when there are NO TAKERS for a QS.
Literally any eligible pilot with a QS in can raise their hand for a QS trip. When nobody does, auto-accept had nothing to do with it.
If anything, QS are shining a bright light on the fact that auto-accept was never the fundamental problem.
Literally any eligible pilot with a QS in can raise their hand for a QS trip. When nobody does, auto-accept had nothing to do with it.
If anything, QS are shining a bright light on the fact that auto-accept was never the fundamental problem.
auto accept is definitely a core part of poor trip coverage imo.
however: since the company stole money from the pb process…..for the first time in a decade of service, im ……… not enthusiastic
03-08-2026 | 07:50 AM
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I can see a viewpoint that blames auto-accept for 23M7 usage, but now that QS are a thing, I don't see how auto-accept can be blamed when there are NO TAKERS for a QS.
Literally any eligible pilot with a QS in can raise their hand for a QS trip. When nobody does, auto-accept had nothing to do with it.
If anything, QS are shining a bright light on the fact that auto-accept was never the fundamental problem.
Literally any eligible pilot with a QS in can raise their hand for a QS trip. When nobody does, auto-accept had nothing to do with it.
If anything, QS are shining a bright light on the fact that auto-accept was never the fundamental problem.
03-08-2026 | 07:54 AM
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I can see a viewpoint that blames auto-accept for 23M7 usage, but now that QS are a thing, I don't see how auto-accept can be blamed when there are NO TAKERS for a QS.
Literally any eligible pilot with a QS in can raise their hand for a QS trip. When nobody does, auto-accept had nothing to do with it.
If anything, QS are shining a bright light on the fact that auto-accept was never the fundamental problem.
Literally any eligible pilot with a QS in can raise their hand for a QS trip. When nobody does, auto-accept had nothing to do with it.
If anything, QS are shining a bright light on the fact that auto-accept was never the fundamental problem.
03-08-2026 | 07:59 AM
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The average time a trip sat in open time before CS starts coverage for the year is 18 minutes according to the ALPA pod cast. It is taking 8-12 hours to make its way through the WS steps due to auto accept if not longer. This is from alpa not the company. This is not sustainable. We can argue all we want about how we got here and whose fault it is but we are here. Both sides need to fix it.
03-08-2026 | 08:26 AM
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The average time a trip sat in open time before CS starts coverage for the year is 18 minutes according to the ALPA pod cast. It is taking 8-12 hours to make its way through the WS steps due to auto accept if not longer. This is from alpa not the company. This is not sustainable. We can argue all we want about how we got here and whose fault it is but we are here. Both sides need to fix it.
This is solely management’s problem to fix. Either they open their wallets enough to fix it in section 6, or status quo prevails and they continue paying 300%+ for coverage. Either way, it’s not the pilot group’s problem — particularly with QS.
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