Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
06-25-2025 | 02:00 PM
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06-25-2025 | 02:28 PM
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RRPY Question
To the PWA experts here...
Prior to sign in (about 3 hours prior) company canceled the flight we were to operate (outbound leg of a trip with only one leg out, one leg back). Then added a DH in its place at a later time, same day on a different flight number. I looked at the definition of RR in 23.A.51. To me it seems that this was indeed a reroute. Although I'm not totally certain. Also, this was more than 7 business days ago and I'm not showing any RRPY.
Question - can one of you PWA experts affirm that this is a reroute before I start the FUPM drill.
Thanks in advance.
Prior to sign in (about 3 hours prior) company canceled the flight we were to operate (outbound leg of a trip with only one leg out, one leg back). Then added a DH in its place at a later time, same day on a different flight number. I looked at the definition of RR in 23.A.51. To me it seems that this was indeed a reroute. Although I'm not totally certain. Also, this was more than 7 business days ago and I'm not showing any RRPY.
Question - can one of you PWA experts affirm that this is a reroute before I start the FUPM drill.
Thanks in advance.
06-25-2025 | 02:44 PM
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To the PWA experts here...
Prior to sign in (about 3 hours prior) company canceled the flight we were to operate (outbound leg of a trip with only one leg out, one leg back). Then added a DH in its place at a later time, same day on a different flight number. I looked at the definition of RR in 23.A.51. To me it seems that this was indeed a reroute. Although I'm not totally certain. Also, this was more than 7 business days ago and I'm not showing any RRPY.
Question - can one of you PWA experts affirm that this is a reroute before I start the FUPM drill.
Thanks in advance.
Prior to sign in (about 3 hours prior) company canceled the flight we were to operate (outbound leg of a trip with only one leg out, one leg back). Then added a DH in its place at a later time, same day on a different flight number. I looked at the definition of RR in 23.A.51. To me it seems that this was indeed a reroute. Although I'm not totally certain. Also, this was more than 7 business days ago and I'm not showing any RRPY.
Question - can one of you PWA experts affirm that this is a reroute before I start the FUPM drill.
Thanks in advance.
06-25-2025 | 03:46 PM
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Interesting. Thank you. We normally don't get rerouted on the WB fleets. But sometimes stuff like I described happens. Also we ended up operating the return leg on our off day, all line holders. So I assume we get ADG for that on top of what we flew, or is it the greater of the 2?
06-25-2025 | 05:08 PM
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Interesting. Thank you. We normally don't get rerouted on the WB fleets. But sometimes stuff like I described happens. Also we ended up operating the return leg on our off day, all line holders. So I assume we get ADG for that on top of what we flew, or is it the greater of the 2?
ADG means “average” as in you can’t get paid less than 5.15 a day times the number of days of your rotation.
06-25-2025 | 07:42 PM
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Then there is also the 23K layer. Call CS and ask what IROP was affecting your rotation, because there have also been illegal reroutes they tried to pass off as 23K recently.
06-25-2025 | 08:49 PM
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So it looks like both SEA-BCN and SEA-FCO will be farther distance than SEA-ICN with FCO being comparable distance to PVG. since I assume the reason for the swap to the 350 in SEA-Asia was performance, why would these routes not have the same issues?
Or do we just not care and need something quick to counter Alaska?
Or do we just not care and need something quick to counter Alaska?
06-26-2025 | 06:17 AM
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Not necessarily true. RES can be rerouted prior to the first airborne departure. REG need to read MOU 24-01 which addresses the 23L2a exception.
Then there is also the 23K layer. Call CS and ask what IROP was affecting your rotation, because there have also been illegal reroutes they tried to pass off as 23K recently.
Then there is also the 23K layer. Call CS and ask what IROP was affecting your rotation, because there have also been illegal reroutes they tried to pass off as 23K recently.
06-26-2025 | 07:04 AM
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I like CAPE, but prefer the more comprehensive P-CAPE. Sorry, no entertaining video. Neither do much to address risk, but can help set expectations of future returns.
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