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Old 07-29-2025 | 02:03 PM
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Some people are still angry they didn’t get their money grab, err min balance plan.
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Old 07-29-2025 | 03:21 PM
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Vacation days should pay the same as ADG imo.
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Old 07-29-2025 | 03:57 PM
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Im up for improve parental leave, if we can get PS Commuting or better commuting policy.

Having kids is a choice, before someone says commuting is a choice.
Commuting is a choice. I made the choice to do it. And I’m against PS commuting, for a lot of reasons.Please don’t waste negotiating resources on this.
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Old 07-29-2025 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
Commuting is a choice. I made the choice to do it. And I’m against PS commuting, for a lot of reasons.Please don’t waste negotiating resources on this.
I choose to commute. Anything without PS commuting is no from me.
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Old 07-29-2025 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
Commuting is a choice. I made the choice to do it. And I’m against PS commuting, for a lot of reasons.Please don’t waste negotiating resources on this.
Our bottom of the industry PWA commuter clause (23.X) absolutely must be raised to the industry standard in C2026 though.

Most regionals have stronger contractual commuter clauses than Delta.
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Old 07-29-2025 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
Commuting is a choice. I made the choice to do it. And I’m against PS commuting, for a lot of reasons.Please don’t waste negotiating resources on this.
Why? Please explain
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Old 07-29-2025 | 05:17 PM
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No backup flight required, just get there.

If you miss 3 trips in a rolling 12 months, you need a backup flight (spaced reasonably but no 2 hr rule) for a year.

You don't get paid for missed trips and there's no "coaching".

Personally I think positive space to AND FROM is the only way to make commuting a true option.

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Old 07-29-2025 | 05:32 PM
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I agree we need United DH and ZED rules too (fix your IT if that's really the reason).

Here's my hot take from way back before I became an air line pilot. Make pilots a higher non-rev priority. We get a later start and earlier retirement than any other group. Our time on active status is pinched on both ends.
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Old 07-29-2025 | 05:40 PM
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The problem with VAS is that airport standby is a miserable job, fatiguing, and can too easily become non-voluntary in the future.

You know how scheduling can find the perfect trip a minute before your SC expires? Imagine the same thing after sitting around the airport for hours. It's not becoming of this profession.

Having done them in a past life, I don't wish them on my worst enemy.
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Old 07-29-2025 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LumberJack
The problem with VAS is that airport standby is a miserable job, fatiguing, and can too easily become non-voluntary in the future.

You know how scheduling can find the perfect trip a minute before your SC expires? Imagine the same thing after sitting around the airport for hours. It's not becoming of this profession.

Having done them in a past life, I don't wish them on my worst enemy.
you realize sitting around an airport is how a lot of commuters handle short call right?

VAS as it sits now is 6 hours and starts your FDP not just RAP at start time. It also significantly limits the kinds of trips you can be used for. a commuter would probably overwhelming prefer it for several reasons and it would even have some advantages for pilots who live in base somewhat near the airport.

i disagree that the concept of pilots at an airport is unbecoming of our profession and as long as it stays voluntary I think most pilots have no issue with it.
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