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Old 05-17-2022 | 06:14 PM
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Will there be a pro/con paper on this?
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Old 05-17-2022 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by boog123
I asked BA when he became chair that he put some thought into having an editor that felt free to change things in a fact based article written by someone else. There’s an integrity issue here. You were still the editor. If you stepped down it’s because you saw what was coming.
If you want to continue living in whatever alternative universe you want to live in by all means. If you think a Council Editor can unilaterally change things in an article without expanding the team more power to ya. If you thinking working for the person who hired you then leaving when they leave is strange more power to ya.

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Old 05-17-2022 | 07:17 PM
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I see only references to WB flying. Isn't the future of the transatlantic super efficient NBs like the A-321NEO or boom jets? This whole agreement is moo. Just watching the Overture youtube and it has both Delta and Virgin livery... hmmmm.

https://boomsupersonic.com/overture

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Old 05-17-2022 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I see only references to WB flying. Isn't the future of the transatlantic super efficient NBs like the A-321NEO or boom jets? This whole agreement is moo. Just watching the Overture youtube and it has both Delta and Virgin livery... hmmmm.

https://boomsupersonic.com/overture
Yep. What if Virgin Atlantic flys a 220-100LR or whatever in premium config LON to NYC/BOS? Or if KLM gets 321XLR etc? Can't be fixated at just "WB". And block hours alone means an AF A380 is equal to our 767. I wonder how Aeromexico fits into all this, where we don't have WB flying and transborder is more relevant than generic Latin America. We can't be giving away MEX flights to AM because we add some PUJ frequencies. Hopefully it's all accounted for.
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Old 05-17-2022 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I see only references to WB flying. Isn't the future of the transatlantic super efficient NBs like the A-321NEO or boom jets? This whole agreement is moo. Just watching the Overture youtube and it has both Delta and Virgin livery... hmmmm.

https://boomsupersonic.com/overture
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Old 05-17-2022 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddiewouldgo
If we as a group are dumb enough to give the company want they want outside of section 6 we deserve everything we get. We have never had more leverage than we do right now. Unfortunately our MEC president is a well known management sympathizer.
Remember this…the company negotiators are lawyers wearing $4000 suits, our negotiators are pilots who took a weekend course in Herndon.


Do suits at Burlington Coat Factory cost $4000 now?
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Old 05-18-2022 | 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
Yep. What if Virgin Atlantic flys a 220-100LR or whatever in premium config LON to NYC/BOS? Or if KLM gets 321XLR etc? Can't be fixated at just "WB". And block hours alone means an AF A380 is equal to our 767. I wonder how Aeromexico fits into all this, where we don't have WB flying and transborder is more relevant than generic Latin America. We can't be giving away MEX flights to AM because we add some PUJ frequencies. Hopefully it's all accounted for.
The language will likely be in ASKs to prevent what your talking about

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Old 05-18-2022 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I see only references to WB flying. Isn't the future of the transatlantic super efficient NBs like the A-321NEO or boom jets? This whole agreement is moo. Just watching the Overture youtube and it has both Delta and Virgin livery... hmmmm.

https://boomsupersonic.com/overture
That was my first question to the council chairman. I cannot imagine any negotiating team is so dumb they would agree to that massive a loophole. Seriously.
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Old 05-18-2022 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
That was my first question to the council chairman. I cannot imagine any negotiating team is so dumb they would agree to that massive a loophole. Seriously.
Do you guys think, after all the resources spent in negotiations, that's the NC would overlook something that obvious to the future like 321NEOs and 737 MAXES across the Atlantic?

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Old 05-18-2022 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
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Let me guess, you don't think they will do that?
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