Retro Pay Resolution
10-27-2022 | 09:43 AM
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10-27-2022 | 09:51 AM
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I think the EDV deal makes it much more likely that the NMB takes us to a cooling off period. Splashing all that money on a subsidiary after 24 days of negotiating while continuing to stonewall us after 1000+ days is a bad look from any angle.
10-27-2022 | 09:53 AM
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10-27-2022 | 09:54 AM
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They can cry "poor" all they want but after the giant EDV pay raises they're funding, ain't nobody gonna believe it, including the mediator.
I think the EDV deal makes it much more likely that the NMB takes us to a cooling off period. Splashing all that money on a subsidiary after 24 days of negotiating while continuing to stonewall us after 1000+ days is a bad look from any angle.
I think the EDV deal makes it much more likely that the NMB takes us to a cooling off period. Splashing all that money on a subsidiary after 24 days of negotiating while continuing to stonewall us after 1000+ days is a bad look from any angle.
10-27-2022 | 10:24 AM
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10-27-2022 | 10:41 AM
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Pound Sand. You don’t know me. I’m as far away from a Company plant as you can get. A realist yes, delusional no. Demanding what we perceive ourselves to be worth in 2019 cost us an entire contract cycle. We are well on the way to being parked. What did Einstein say about insanity & doing the same thing over & over???
Have our results changed???
Have our results changed???
10-27-2022 | 10:47 AM
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I agree with you. Some folks just don’t want to hear the realistic POVs, so they’d rather sling mud. I’d say most pilots fall in a category of being realistic, but what you encounter online generally are the ends of the bell curve. With that said, we have to see how the strike vote goes but I think our union needs to temper our expectations. Other things to consider are the risk/reward for continuing to drag things out vs truly finding the middle ground. I’m bearish on the macro economic picture for the near term and I believe whatever leverage we had recently is going to diminish rapidly.
10-27-2022 | 11:06 AM
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You guys are delusional, Endeavor pilots now start at a higher rate than Delta. Mesa pilots are out earning WB A's. This is getting ridiculous, man up and stick up for your profession. Look at United, you are in the minority if you think we are willing to settle for table scraps.
I be curious to see if and when we get a new contact in 6 months or 6 years who will be closer to "delusional" I have a feeling many on this board will be surprised.
10-27-2022 | 11:17 AM
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Ahhhhhh, so some one disagrees or has a different perspective on what expectations are for a raise in the next contract and they are labeled delusional.
I be curious to see if and when we get a new contact in 6 months or 6 years who will be closer to "delusional" I have a feeling many on this board will be surprised.
I be curious to see if and when we get a new contact in 6 months or 6 years who will be closer to "delusional" I have a feeling many on this board will be surprised.
10-27-2022 | 11:18 AM
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Ahhhhhh, so some one disagrees or has a different perspective on what expectations are for a raise in the next contract and they are labeled delusional.
I be curious to see if and when we get a new contact in 6 months or 6 years who will be closer to "delusional" I have a feeling many on this board will be surprised.
I be curious to see if and when we get a new contact in 6 months or 6 years who will be closer to "delusional" I have a feeling many on this board will be surprised.
Agree with you on the delusional part...it's ok to have differing opinions. On the second part, many swore up and down (some quite indignantly) that if we voted down TA1, that we wouldn't get anything better. Yet, some of those very people admitted they were wrong and ate crow. Of course they followed it up with all the excuses "new CEO, UAL agreement, blah blah blah." Bottom line, they were adamant that they were right and ended up being wrong (their words).
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