MEC chairman election
#172
Roll’n Thunder
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#173
I mean it happens at all levels of government in this country so why not Alpa. Alpa is just another political group at the national/ MEC chairman level. Nepotism at its best!
#174
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Alpa it's all about who you know and what people (voting members) you can place in easy Alpa positions...
I mean it happens at all levels of government in this country so why not Alpa. Alpa is just another political group at the national/ MEC chairman level. Nepotism at its best!
I mean it happens at all levels of government in this country so why not Alpa. Alpa is just another political group at the national/ MEC chairman level. Nepotism at its best!
#175
Line Holder
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Indeed.
Everyone should bid reserve, no matter seniority, base, equipment type, staffing, or position, and they too may have this amazing GS/bank days lifestyle.
All 15,000 of us.
I’ve no prob with anyone who exercised a negotiated contractual benefit. Since at least half (probably much more) of the group will never be able to “roll thunder” though, I don’t care very much if it gets tweaked.
In normal times, this wasn’t an issue. In 2022, it’s pretty clear luck of the draw provided unanticipated windfalls for some.
Especially if the tweaking provides overall benefits for the many, not the few. With biases for the senior, not the junior (union shop, seniority has preference. I don’t write the rules, but union shop seniority rules are well understood to be biased towards hire date)
Everyone should bid reserve, no matter seniority, base, equipment type, staffing, or position, and they too may have this amazing GS/bank days lifestyle.
All 15,000 of us.
I’ve no prob with anyone who exercised a negotiated contractual benefit. Since at least half (probably much more) of the group will never be able to “roll thunder” though, I don’t care very much if it gets tweaked.
In normal times, this wasn’t an issue. In 2022, it’s pretty clear luck of the draw provided unanticipated windfalls for some.
Especially if the tweaking provides overall benefits for the many, not the few. With biases for the senior, not the junior (union shop, seniority has preference. I don’t write the rules, but union shop seniority rules are well understood to be biased towards hire date)
It's not about everyone bidding RSV or everyone getting PBs. I have sat a lot of RSV but never Rolled Thunder, and probably never will because I need to know at least some of my off days in advance of the month starting.
Just because I don't personally use it doesn't mean I don't see the benefit to the pilot group. How jammed up does CS get because of Rolling Thunder or even just a few PBs sprinkled on a RSV pilot's sked? How many more GSs or even good deal WSs go out to lineholders because of RSV GSing? I bet quite a bit.
In addition, and most importantly, PBs severely penalize them for 'running a little hot.' I'm pretty sure this summer would have been a staffing mess no matter what. But maybe, just maybe PBs and Rolling Thunder will make them think twice about trying that next summer (cue jokes about air line management and longterm planning).
If we toss PBs what incentive do they have to ever go back to a 'normal operation'? Instead we'll just see every summer run this way except there will be no way for RSVs to have bare able skeds.
#176
I guess there's other people that do work for alpa out side the LEC's and are known to people. For example Ryan A.
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#178
That's a great theory, but practically speaking, I would guess that only about 5% of the pilot group is actively engaged in union politics whether it be running for a position or even voting. That can be borne out by looking at LEC meeting attendance. It isn't really bottom up. It is squeaky wheel which takes a back seat to the good old boy network, to wit: Hartmann
#179
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That's a great theory, but practically speaking, I would guess that only about 5% of the pilot group is actively engaged in union politics whether it be running for a position or even voting. That can be borne out by looking at LEC meeting attendance. It isn't really bottom up. It is squeaky wheel which takes a back seat to the good old boy network, to wit: Hartmann
#180
That's a great theory, but practically speaking, I would guess that only about 5% of the pilot group is actively engaged in union politics whether it be running for a position or even voting. That can be borne out by looking at LEC meeting attendance. It isn't really bottom up. It is squeaky wheel which takes a back seat to the good old boy network, to wit: Hartmann
You wouldn’t want it to either. Imagine endless meetings full of people who find t actually want to be there.
Organization is oligarchy. Best not to lose sleep over it.
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