MEC chairman election
11-16-2022 | 08:23 AM
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It’s a fair question. I think there are two or three reasons that ALPA does it this way:
1. A membership-wide ballot would give an advantage to candidates from Atlanta, where two councils are based.
2. Voter participation is typically very low in LEC elections. The current system ensures 100 percent participation in every officer election.
3. The Master Chairman acts as the MEC at-large when the MEC is not in session; the current governance ensures a definitive decision on who gets to act in their names when they’re off the clock, and gives a measure of legitimacy to the office when it interacts with management, government, the media, and third party stakeholders.
1. A membership-wide ballot would give an advantage to candidates from Atlanta, where two councils are based.
2. Voter participation is typically very low in LEC elections. The current system ensures 100 percent participation in every officer election.
3. The Master Chairman acts as the MEC at-large when the MEC is not in session; the current governance ensures a definitive decision on who gets to act in their names when they’re off the clock, and gives a measure of legitimacy to the office when it interacts with management, government, the media, and third party stakeholders.
Exactly this. Throw in also the accountability issue of recall.
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11-16-2022 | 08:25 AM
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Argenta in his video message to pilots says he'll advocate for full retro pay, going back to the ammendable date. For me, that's easily going to be 120k. I mean, come on. How likely is it that Delta will really cut a check for 1.2 Billion (100k x 12,000) to the pilot group just for retro? It seems like Argenta is glossing over the reality of the situation and just saying what we want to hear.
If delta cut a retro check for 1.2 billion, they just got a 3 year contract for only 1.2 billion. That’s extremely cheap for them
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11-16-2022 | 08:29 AM
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Argenta in his video message to pilots says he'll advocate for full retro pay, going back to the ammendable date. For me, that's easily going to be 120k. I mean, come on. How likely is it that Delta will really cut a check for 1.2 Billion (100k x 12,000) to the pilot group just for retro? It seems like Argenta is glossing over the reality of the situation and just saying what we want to hear.
11-16-2022 | 08:30 AM
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No one has said yet what % per year of back pay it will be. I think it would be a hard ask to get 25% DOS all the way back to 2020. But a scaled percentage per year until DOS gives us a 25% increase over 2019 rates is reasonable on the DOS would be reasonable. So the real question is what will the scale or annual percentage increase be for each year that the contract was open
11-16-2022 | 08:45 AM
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We've dragged negotiations to the end, I am not about to settle on anything with a strike around the corner. We will get released. At this point I am after much more than I would've accepted at the end of 2019. I now want trip construction back and above all else, Ed gone. I'd park this airline tomorrow, everyone I know feels the same way.
I've made up my mind that we are striking, at a minimum.
I've made up my mind that we are striking, at a minimum.
11-16-2022 | 09:08 AM
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We've dragged negotiations to the end, I am not about to settle on anything with a strike around the corner. We will get released. At this point I am after much more than I would've accepted at the end of 2019. I now want trip construction back and above all else, Ed gone. I'd park this airline tomorrow, everyone I know feels the same way.
I've made up my mind that we are striking, at a minimum.
I've made up my mind that we are striking, at a minimum.
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11-16-2022 | 09:26 AM
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We've dragged negotiations to the end, I am not about to settle on anything with a strike around the corner. We will get released. At this point I am after much more than I would've accepted at the end of 2019. I now want trip construction back and above all else, Ed gone. I'd park this airline tomorrow, everyone I know feels the same way.
I've made up my mind that we are striking, at a minimum.
I've made up my mind that we are striking, at a minimum.
11-16-2022 | 10:02 AM
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So then you are happy with the direction the airline has been heading over the past 4 years? What exactly is "fair?" Who decides fair? Fair to who? So you voted to authorize a strike but then don't really want to? Did you think the MEC was kidding? If negotiations turn in a favor after this vote then clearly Ed realizes we very well could strike. If he truly believed we would never strike then why change the play after 4 years of dragging feet?
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