WTF. Emailed the NYC FO rep a week ago saying vote for anybody but Hartmann. Got no reply. Now I know why.

 

I have yet to fly with even one pilot who channels your anger (thankfully). Don't get "willing to strike" confused with "eagerly looking forward to it." I think of a strike like using the atom bomb. No one WANTED to use it in 1945 or any other year. In extreme and rare circumstances it was necessary. I am WILLING AND ABLE to strike. I don't WANT to. You DO want to.

And as for your "more than anything, I want Ed gone" comment from an earlier post--get real. I don't like him at all. But to anyone other than pilots and mechanics, he is nearly deity on the Delta property. He says all the right things that the rest of the employee group loves, hands out "Eddie Bears" and they all think he walks on water. Don't think for one nanosecond that we will have one molecule of support from anyone else outside mechanics and perhaps a few hard-nosed former NWA flight attendants. Telling the BOD "the pilots want Ed gone" will merely elicit a chuckle and "duly noted" response.

 

Being willing to strike and wanting to strike are two completely different things. I would say 98.9% are in the first category and you are holding down the fort in the second.

 

So you would rather pick a strike than a contract? Weird flex

 

Flex? Define "contract" and then we'll see who's flexing. I want to strike just to remind everyone involved it is a tool not to be discounted, as it always is. LBFO after 30 days will clear up a lot.

 

Define “contract”, what?

again weird flex you have that you would rather go on strike as a message than have a contract we deserve. It’s just an odd thing to say. Majority of us would like a contract we deserve. I‘m not really sure what your motives are, but really don’t care either way.

 

There are probably 10% of cranky old dudes who want to go on strike as punishment to management. They aren't interested in using the strike as a tool but want to inflict as much pain as possible no matter what they are offering. It's very counterproductive

 

Now you are starting to add definition. Yes, I'd rather flex than settle for a contract.

 

I about upchucked myself…based on my interactions with him…we’re definitely “fooked”…don’t expect much fellas on this or future contracts…but he’ll be fine..

 

This is an excellent point. It really illustrates the fact that work rules and soft monies that are lost... are lost forever. All we can recover... is pay. My minimum just went up.