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#71
Sounds like it's double what a regular line pilot would get. I'll have to remember that if I go on disability. I would investigate the heck out of reroutes for that cash.
#72
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So, is this accurate? If a line pilot goes out on disability he will eventually get 50% FAE just by sitting at home with his feet propped up. IF he choose to work(whether it be for ALPA or for McDonalds) he can make up to 100% of what his FAE was and then the disability is offset 1:1 . The only way to make more would be if his other job paid more than FAE at which point the disability payment would be 0??? That about right?
If the above is correct, what's the problem?
IOW ....to make double what the line pilot makes in disability you actually have to work. I know....kinda a strange concept for those that roll thunder with PB days
If the above is correct, what's the problem?
IOW ....to make double what the line pilot makes in disability you actually have to work. I know....kinda a strange concept for those that roll thunder with PB days
#73
So, is this accurate? If a line pilot goes out on disability he will eventually get 50% FAE just by sitting at home with his feet propped up. IF he choose to work(whether it be for ALPA or for McDonalds) he can make up to 100% of what his FAE was and then the disability is offset 1:1 . The only way to make more would be if his other job paid more than FAE at which point the disability payment would be 0??? That about right?
If the above is correct, what's the problem?
IOW ....to make double what the line pilot makes in disability you actually have to work. I know....kinda a strange concept for those that roll thunder with PB days
If the above is correct, what's the problem?
IOW ....to make double what the line pilot makes in disability you actually have to work. I know....kinda a strange concept for those that roll thunder with PB days

Rolling thunder means you were actually working on your OFF days. You obviously don't know how this works. And a full pay plus up for ALPA work riding a desk with 0 responsibility sounds like a better gig than McDs.
#74
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Germane to this discussion, the option is sit at home and make 50% or work and make 100%. If you had a great ALPA rep who lost his medical,would you be in favor of making him step down because he would be "double dipping" according to your logic?
I wouldn't, but you are entitled to your opinion if you disagree.
#75
Oh, I know exactly how rolling thunder works. You do work on your "off" days which prevents you from having any "on" days. Consequently, you work a "normal line schedule" and make a lot more than the normal line pilot. That is all besides the point.
Germane to this discussion, the option is sit at home and make 50% or work and make 100%. If you had a great ALPA rep who lost his medical,would you be in favor of making him step down because he would be "double dipping" according to your logic?
I wouldn't, but you are entitled to your opinion if you disagree.
Germane to this discussion, the option is sit at home and make 50% or work and make 100%. If you had a great ALPA rep who lost his medical,would you be in favor of making him step down because he would be "double dipping" according to your logic?
I wouldn't, but you are entitled to your opinion if you disagree.
It's a great deal, I agree. I'm all for good deals. We should make it available to everyone, kinda like reserve is.
I asked earlier but no response, how long has it been since the new MEC chairman flew the line?
#76
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You didn't answer my question. Would you mandate that a great rep has to resign? IOW...you expect him to work for free or step down?
Not sure what good comes of that...seems more like, "He's getting a good deal (which he works for) ,therefor, I am against it"
Just food for thought...I'm out...... but in the ambivalent camp.
Not sure what good comes of that...seems more like, "He's getting a good deal (which he works for) ,therefor, I am against it"
Just food for thought...I'm out...... but in the ambivalent camp.
#77
You didn't answer my question. Would you mandate that a great rep has to resign? IOW...you expect him to work for free or step down?
Not sure what good comes of that...seems more like, "He's getting a good deal (which he works for) ,therefor, I am against it"
Just food for thought...I'm out...... but in the ambivalent camp.
Not sure what good comes of that...seems more like, "He's getting a good deal (which he works for) ,therefor, I am against it"
Just food for thought...I'm out...... but in the ambivalent camp.

#78
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Has this changed in the last few years? I tried to volunteer for the Scheduling Committee in 2019ish, even came in and met with KS. I was told that being on LTD was essentially a show-stopper, even if literally as a pure volunteer.
I would have loved to get that plus-up while making 50%. Or is this only for those on full FPL?
I would have loved to get that plus-up while making 50%. Or is this only for those on full FPL?
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#79
It’s not a windfall by any means, but it’s more than a line pilot could get since it takes you up to 94.5 a month. It’s certainly not double as some have said. I don’t think the issue is pay, because they are doing work for not a lot of extra pay especially when they could sit at home collecting a little less and doing nothing. I think the argument is it’s something not afforded to every pilot, but I could be wrong.
I’m not sure how long it has existed, but to my knowledge it started being used about 2 years ago.
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I’m not sure how long it has existed, but to my knowledge it started being used about 2 years ago.
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I don't know what the ratio is for disability pay but my normal line months are built to 80ish. If disability is 50% that's 40 hours of pay. Obviously everyone's earning will vary over their preceding 12 months but wouldn't TLV which is 75-80 hours be a good guide? At 94.5 per month that's more than double, in fact it's 2.3625x. That can't be right, can it? Somebody help me with the math, I've thankfully never been on disability.
Again, I’m by no means an expert here but the stipend takes you from whatever your disability pay is that day up to 5:15 per day so I guess it depends on how many alpa days the pilot is doing
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