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Old 06-13-2023 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
No way you’re a line pilot. Even the most moderate pilot can’t be affected by his lack of candor and how he destroyed this pilots’ group morale. I can’t believe anybody who flew under he’s tenure could write such propaganda. Good luck to us all.
Lack of Candor? Have you ever met him? He's a nice and humble person. Endeavor pilots seem to like him when he was in charge there. The only complaints pilots have are the "optimizer" which had way more to do with the retirement of the 88 combined with the collapse of DCI, and him flying as a 767A
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Old 06-13-2023 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Lack of Candor? Have you ever met him? He's a nice and humble person. Endeavor pilots seem to like him when he was in charge there. The only complaints pilots have are the "optimizer" which had way more to do with the retirement of the 88 combined with the collapse of DCI, and him flying as a 767A
Whats a SIL? Great candor. He cares nothing about the line pilot. I couldn’t care less how great he is to talk to while kiss butting on the 4th floor. His actions destroyed the morale of this pilot groups for decades. Too bad his metrics can’t measure that. The morale alone will cost billions over that period but since bean counters can’t measure it, no big deal.
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Old 06-13-2023 | 08:19 AM
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Old 06-13-2023 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
Whats a SIL? Great candor. He cares nothing about the line pilot. I couldn’t care less how great he is to talk to while kiss butting on the 4th floor. His actions destroyed the morale of this pilot groups for decades. Too bad his metrics can’t measure that. The morale alone will cost billions over that period but since bean counters can’t measure it, no big deal.
Preach it. Truth.
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Old 06-13-2023 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
His 2018 "found staffing" solution when he stopped hiring was one of the worst QOL changes in the last decade.
One of??? I challenge you to name one that was worse.

OBTW, don’t trust any pilot who thinks this is a positive for one’s life as an Air Line pilot.
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Old 06-13-2023 | 08:25 AM
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One of??? I challenge you to name one that was worse.

OBTW, don’t trust any pilot who thinks this is a positive for one’s life as an Air Line pilot.
not defending the guy, don’t know him. But, he did reduce the amount of UNA’s😂
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Old 06-13-2023 | 08:26 AM
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Trip7 trippin'

Every one of Bastian's flight ops hires has been a disaster both operationally, and especially for pilot well-being. He has driven away leaders who might have been workable for us, and replaced them with managers whose ultimate loyalty is to Bastian himself, and whom reflect Bastian's low regard for us as professionals and people.

And now we're getting a recycled guy back, with a promotion. A guy so out of touch he mocked us for being stupid enough to trust them on SILs during covid. Who ran our QOL into the ground. On what planet is this good for pilots? Delta management is a case study in the Peter Principle.

Dude showed up and upgrades himself to ER captain, thousands of numbers out of seniority. Put himself on the the D-Day flight last year, thousands of numbers out of seniority. This dude's ego is as big as his regard for line pilots is small.

I guess if there is any silver lining, it will be Burns sent back to the line. It doesn't matter, though. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Maybe Gumm isn't as much of a transparently toxic personality, but nothing will improve for us.

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Old 06-13-2023 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
The only complaints pilots have are the "optimizer" which had way more to do with the retirement of the 88
Really? Because the Mad Dog didn’t retire until COVID forced it out, which was a whole 2 years later.

Any summer 2023 thunderstorm predictions while you’re at it?
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Old 06-13-2023 | 08:50 AM
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Really? Because the Mad Dog didn’t retire until COVID forced it out, which was a whole 2 years later.

Any summer 2023 thunderstorm predictions while you’re at it?
To be fair, leap year happened under his tenure too.
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Old 06-13-2023 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
One of??? I challenge you to name one that was worse.

OBTW, don’t trust any pilot who thinks this is a positive for one’s life as an Air Line pilot.
Well, the pilot showing support for Gumm is also the pilot that was in support of firing/terminating any Delta pilot who didn't want to get a Covid shot. No leave of absence without pay.....flat out termination. That mindset was suspect at the time and has not aged well IMHO.
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