The Gumm Strikes Back
06-17-2023 | 10:38 AM
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06-17-2023 | 10:41 AM
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It's a Memorial Day trip. As long as it's flown by a veteran, it doesn't matter to me. The flight isn't a who's more of a worthy veteran. Should it have gone to a seniority list pilot? Sure. That's the most fair, contractually. A good leader would have stepped aside. But I'm not arguing he's a good leader. I'm just saying at least he's a veteran.
So now we are to the point where if seniority pilots are able to bid on a prestigious trip we are going to judge who flies it on whether they were worthy of bidding the trip when awarded?
06-17-2023 | 10:46 AM
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My issue was when they turned around and said it wasn’t in line with the rules of the road and the pilots needed to come to the table line the other groups. We were the first ones there, we gave up April schedules immediately only to have the rug pulled out and told we were holding out. But yeah, they weren’t legally wrong. But we all know it was a con job.
06-18-2023 | 11:06 AM
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Trip7 trippin'
Every one of Bastian's flight ops hires has been a disaster both operationally, and especially for pilot well-being. He has driven away leaders who might have been workable for us, and replaced them with managers whose ultimate loyalty is to Bastian himself, and whom reflect Bastian's low regard for us as professionals and people.
And now we're getting a recycled guy back, with a promotion. A guy so out of touch he mocked us for being stupid enough to trust them on SILs during covid. Who ran our QOL into the ground. On what planet is this good for pilots? Delta management is a case study in the Peter Principle.
Dude showed up and upgrades himself to ER captain, thousands of numbers out of seniority. Put himself on the the D-Day flight last year, thousands of numbers out of seniority. This dude's ego is as big as his regard for line pilots is small.
I guess if there is any silver lining, it will be Burns sent back to the line. It doesn't matter, though. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Maybe Gumm isn't as much of a transparently toxic personality, but nothing will improve for us.
Every one of Bastian's flight ops hires has been a disaster both operationally, and especially for pilot well-being. He has driven away leaders who might have been workable for us, and replaced them with managers whose ultimate loyalty is to Bastian himself, and whom reflect Bastian's low regard for us as professionals and people.
And now we're getting a recycled guy back, with a promotion. A guy so out of touch he mocked us for being stupid enough to trust them on SILs during covid. Who ran our QOL into the ground. On what planet is this good for pilots? Delta management is a case study in the Peter Principle.
Dude showed up and upgrades himself to ER captain, thousands of numbers out of seniority. Put himself on the the D-Day flight last year, thousands of numbers out of seniority. This dude's ego is as big as his regard for line pilots is small.
I guess if there is any silver lining, it will be Burns sent back to the line. It doesn't matter, though. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Maybe Gumm isn't as much of a transparently toxic personality, but nothing will improve for us.
Good summary.
Some people like him, but I guess they don’t mind 11 hour layovers, endless reroutes and red eyes in 80% of rotations.
Maybe because they didn’t experience how good it was before - when being an airline pilot was actually cool and not exhausting all the time?
06-18-2023 | 01:55 PM
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Good summary.
Some people like him, but I guess they don’t mind 11 hour layovers, endless reroutes and red eyes in 80% of rotations.
Maybe because they didn’t experience how good it was before - when being an airline pilot was actually cool and not exhausting all the time?
Some people like him, but I guess they don’t mind 11 hour layovers, endless reroutes and red eyes in 80% of rotations.
Maybe because they didn’t experience how good it was before - when being an airline pilot was actually cool and not exhausting all the time?
A5S
06-18-2023 | 02:18 PM
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remember (forgot who said it JL maybe) a great fatigue mitigation strategy is to be more senior.
06-18-2023 | 02:33 PM
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For someone who will be new here, curious as to what these looked like? 1-2 leg days that blocked significantly less for min average credit? I took a look at some of the ATL 717 pairings that fit that bill.
06-19-2023 | 04:10 AM
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Back then the 73N was a long leg specialist. You'd never see a 73 in TLH, ECP, HSV or BHM. Likewise with the mighty 757. Those were the days of thunder, when the MD88 and DC9/717 were pushing smoke all throughout the burgs and villes of the SE. There were also no Delta Captains under 40, and very few under 50. My how things have changed. Brave New World
06-19-2023 | 04:25 AM
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Back then the 73N was a long leg specialist. You'd never see a 73 in TLH, ECP, HSV or BHM. Likewise with the mighty 757. Those were the days of thunder, when the MD88 and DC9/717 were pushing smoke all throughout the burgs and villes of the SE. There were also no Delta Captains under 40, and very few under 50. My how things have changed. Brave New World
Prior to the optimizer, I held better trips at 65% than I could at 20% after the fact.
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