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11-03-2025 | 12:08 PM

#391

demon llama

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Originally Posted by notEnuf

Are suggesting reps should field a call from every member on every topic?

I dunno, my senator doesn't give a **** what I think, but he votes in line with a majority opinion in my godforsaken state. At least I can drop him an online form email. #FML

11-03-2025 | 12:14 PM

#392

Viper25

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Originally Posted by AirCoxswain

Agree with most of that except they won't pay unless we make them. The only way they're going to pay the affected pilot on most of the QSs is if we hire full-time people to the scheduling committee to check every single one. We were also supposed to have automation for many scheduling "errors", but the MEC completely failed to implement that.

Talk to your reps. The reps I’ve spoken to said the 23M7 pay automation is legit.

I’ve also seen some insane time cards from 23M7 farmers. They are paying, and with the automation the payments won’t slip through the cracks.

11-03-2025 | 12:15 PM

#393

notEnuf

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From: N60.4858 W149.9327

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon llama

I dunno, my senator doesn't give a **** what I think, but he votes in line with a majority opinion in my godforsaken state. At least I can drop him an online form email. #FML

Had I known this was being discussed with the company and would append our agreement... I would have fired off a strongly worded letter to my rep, 'cause that's just what we do.

11-03-2025 | 12:18 PM

#394

notEnuf

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Originally Posted by Viper25

Talk to your reps. The reps I’ve spoken to said the 23M7 pay automation is legit. -of course they have to believe that, how else will they be able to say WDTTWDT

I’ve also seen some insane time cards from 23M7 farmers. They are paying, and with the automation the payments won’t slip through the cracks.

I think everyone should go to the 23M7 report and use the "all" function for their category... eye opening.

11-03-2025 | 12:39 PM

#395

Verdell

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Originally Posted by Viper25

Question: Does 23M7 from a skipped WS count towards the WS-pickup limit for the harmed pilot?

11-03-2025 | 01:02 PM

#396

OOfff

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Originally Posted by notEnuf

A - I never said GS

and too - QS will largely replace GS when things get a little hot. (most of the summer)

and yet, green slips go out currently with the inverse assignment free-for-all, but now that’s been improved by forcing a quick slip first.

11-03-2025 | 01:07 PM

#397

NuGuy

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Originally Posted by Verdell

Question: Does 23M7 from a skipped WS count towards the WS-pickup limit for the harmed pilot?

Yes.

Filler

11-03-2025 | 01:18 PM

#398

FangsF15

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Originally Posted by NuGuy

Yes.

Filler

But the 'farmers' don't really care, since they have zero intention of (almost) ever actually flying one of their WS's...

11-03-2025 | 01:19 PM

#399

puppy guppy

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Originally Posted by OOfff

if it was a supermajority, they did follow the policy manual. since you’re the one claiming they did not, what was the breakdown?

The policy manual states "9.B.1.b: All other amendments to the PWA (side letters of agreement) that have
been recommended for approval by a majority vote of the MEC shall be subject to membership ratification."

This sounds like stories of the past ("old guard" I think they were called) where the ALPA Admin and MEC know better than the pilots, so there's no need to ask for input.