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Old 01-16-2026 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Is this basically PBs old job? Like a system chief pilot? Amazing that was his first communication to his pilots 😂
RG replaced PB. The system chief pilot is the SVP of FOPs.
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Old 01-16-2026 | 05:09 PM
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It is truly incredible and predictable that every time management thinks they have the solution to breaking the pilots' will and/or busting the union--that they have finally discovered the path to making every pilot think like a widget cultist--they step on their dicks and p!ss the pilots off even more.

This is exactly the kind of nonsense pilots who were hired since the last round of negotiations need to see--when the fake, insincere veneer of "we're here to support pilots" and "we've got your back" fades away to the inevitable toxic brew of passive-aggressive douchery and flat-out pilot pushing. **** these goons, every one of them.
Old 01-16-2026 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptNewBalance
We appreciate your cooperation and your continued adherence to the Pilot Working Agreement
This part is especially ironic coming from anyone representing the company.
Old 01-16-2026 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CX500T
So basically, we give you the agreed upon benefits then threatened investigation and discipline if you use it.
So is this like a Dean Wormer double secret probation??
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Old 01-16-2026 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper25
These letters are an excellent way to galvanize and unite the pilot group! Well done!
Bingo. Reminds me of “what’s a SIL?”


And I love how they wildly inflate and assume facts not in evidence by acting like they already caught you with your hand in the cookie jar: “Continued use of Widget's absence programs in ways that do not align with the Pilot Working Agreement or Widget policies may lead to further action, including possible discipline

Unbelievably tone deaf and misguided.
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Old 01-16-2026 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bazinga
RG replaced PB. The system chief pilot is the SVP of FOPs.
Isn’t Cochran the current “Chief Pilot?”
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Old 01-16-2026 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Bingo. Reminds me of “what’s a SIL?”


And I love how they wildly inflate and assume facts not in evidence by acting like they already caught you with your hand in the cookie jar: “Continued use of Widget's absence programs in ways that do not align with the Pilot Working Agreement or Widget policies may lead to further action, including possible discipline

Unbelievably tone deaf and misguided.
its neither tone deaf nor misguided, it’s very intentional. The company cannot discipline pilots for this, including putting letters in files. They know that, so they do this instead, to get as close to discipline as possible without making it actual, grievable discipline. Their goal is to reduce sick usage and it will probably work in that regard.
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Old 01-16-2026 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by texas1970
its neither tone deaf nor misguided, it’s very intentional. The company cannot discipline pilots for this, including putting letters in files. They know that, so they do this instead, to get as close to discipline as possible without making it actual, grievable discipline. Their goal is to reduce sick usage and it will probably work in that regard.
The pilot group won’t be the slightest bit deterred by this. It will have the opposite effect, just as the attempted auto-accept intimidation did.

I would expect ALPA to release a comm very soon, reminding pilots of the Harris arbitration award (ATL 03-09), as well as the fact that Handel’s threats of discipline are completely without merit.

Handel has lost the confidence of the pilot group — in record time for someone in that position. Anything he says from this point forward bears no merit.
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Old 01-16-2026 | 08:20 PM
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Well boys, i aint got time for this horse****.

Pound sand and thanks for all you do management.
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Old 01-16-2026 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ancman
The pilot group won’t be the slightest bit deterred by this. It will have the opposite effect, just as the attempted auto-accept intimidation did.

I would expect ALPA to release a comm very soon, reminding pilots of the Harris arbitration award (ATL 03-09), as well as the fact that Handel’s threats of discipline are completely without merit.

Handel has lost the confidence of the pilot group — in record time for someone in that position. Anything he says from this point forward bears no merit.
I hope so. I think the average line pilot is not on these forums and is afraid of GFB and the CPO. This type of letter is the type of thing that I think scares them. The type of people frequently on these forums and reading ALPA emails are the type that were already going to use their sick time when they were sick anyway.

The fact that it took most pilots 3 years to discover how nice auto accept is still astounds me.
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