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03-18-2026 | 08:28 AM
#301
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In the 10 days between Israel starting the current campaign and the US joining it, there was a lot of activity at Fordow. Many trucks, the analysts showed that the trucks were dump trucks, not the specialized vehicles needed to transport centrifuges or the cylinders containing the nuclear materials.
So, it looks like the Iranians filled the entrance to the facility with a bunch of dirt. If that is true, now you're talking about something very different than a quick raid.
So, it looks like the Iranians filled the entrance to the facility with a bunch of dirt. If that is true, now you're talking about something very different than a quick raid.
As always, intel and planning would be crucial.
03-18-2026 | 09:05 AM
#303
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I was involved at the time JCOA was developed. The main problems with that deal, as implemented...
1) Our allies in the region did not consider it adequate for their security. The nuclear restrictions were temporary.
2) IR took their new-found economic windfall and applied it to more regional malign influence. So maybe less centrifuges, but more exported terror, insurgencies, missiles, proxy support, etc.
So behavior didn't change, it just morphed into other directions.
The deal was not a success for the US, other than maybe one guy's political legacy.
1) Our allies in the region did not consider it adequate for their security. The nuclear restrictions were temporary.
2) IR took their new-found economic windfall and applied it to more regional malign influence. So maybe less centrifuges, but more exported terror, insurgencies, missiles, proxy support, etc.
So behavior didn't change, it just morphed into other directions.
The deal was not a success for the US, other than maybe one guy's political legacy.
This is obviously a complicated issue but it seems like it would have made sense to keep the agreement in place until an additional agreement was reached.
03-18-2026 | 12:40 PM
#304
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So the Western Journal was wrong. Right. They have not retracted or recanted on their report.
He can't hide his previous posts and his X account. He can't scrub all the interviews he has done on television up to 2025. It's all there. He said what he said all the way up to 2025. Then something happened. I leave that for you to figure out.
Like Fangs' stated above, agree or disagree about this - it's all good and that's a healthy discussion to have. However, you, I or anyone else will not know or realize the strategic outcome of this pummeling until years down the road. Let them cook.
He can't hide his previous posts and his X account. He can't scrub all the interviews he has done on television up to 2025. It's all there. He said what he said all the way up to 2025. Then something happened. I leave that for you to figure out.
Like Fangs' stated above, agree or disagree about this - it's all good and that's a healthy discussion to have. However, you, I or anyone else will not know or realize the strategic outcome of this pummeling until years down the road. Let them cook.
Heather Kaiser co-authored one freelance piece for The Grayzone in 2023 about wasteful USAID spending in Ukraine. That's the full extent of her involvement.
03-18-2026 | 12:56 PM
#305
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HK, do your research. It is disgusting to jump on the bandwagon attacking a gold star husband and someone who served 11 tours. Attacking Joe is a losing battle and will only further divide the right. Even if his wife did work for Greyzone what is the point of attacking Joe? The information is out there but apparently you want to believe what you believe because it fits your narrative.
So if you are wrong about this then what else are you wrong about? You think this is a winning issue for the right?
So if you are wrong about this then what else are you wrong about? You think this is a winning issue for the right?
03-18-2026 | 01:10 PM
#306
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Being anti-war doesn’t have to be partisan. But you don’t think an appointed administration member quitting and then getting dragged by his own side is political? It has fractured the R’s into two. Conservatives are cooked in the midterms. Their reaction to Joe’s resignation is back firing. Democrats love this war I’m sure. What is your point? Of course this particular issue has political ramifications. It isn’t partisan left vs right as much as MAGA diehards vs anti-war right.
03-18-2026 | 01:14 PM
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Being anti-war doesn’t have to be partisan. But you don’t think an appointed administration member quitting and then getting dragged by his own side is political? It has fractured the R’s into two. Conservatives are cooked in the midterms. Their reaction to Joe’s resignation is back firing. Democrats love this war I’m sure. What is your point? Of course this particular issue has political ramifications. It isn’t partisan left vs right as much as MAGA diehards vs anti-war right.
I don't follow politics though. It just has that "feel."
03-18-2026 | 02:42 PM
#308
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Being anti-war doesn’t have to be partisan. But you don’t think an appointed administration member quitting and then getting dragged by his own side is political? It has fractured the R’s into two. Conservatives are cooked in the midterms. Their reaction to Joe’s resignation is back firing. Democrats love this war I’m sure. What is your point? Of course this particular issue has political ramifications. It isn’t partisan left vs right as much as MAGA diehards vs anti-war right.
03-18-2026 | 02:48 PM
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HK, do your research. It is disgusting to jump on the bandwagon attacking a gold star husband and someone who served 11 tours. Attacking Joe is a losing battle and will only further divide the right. Even if his wife did work for Greyzone what is the point of attacking Joe? The information is out there but apparently you want to believe what you believe because it fits your narrative.
So if you are wrong about this then what else are you wrong about? You think this is a winning issue for the right?
So if you are wrong about this then what else are you wrong about? You think this is a winning issue for the right?
Yes, he is under FBI and DNI investigation for leaks. Presumably to Tucker Carlson. More to follow on that.
I won't further this discussion other than to debate the merits or detriments to the ongoing operations in the ME (which as a disclaimer I fully support).
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