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Old 03-17-2026 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MeteorA113
Yeah, that withdrawal began with Trump during his presidency. War is chaos but this administration also didn't have to start it. Take your whataboutism somewhere else
pay now or pay later. simple as that.
Old 03-17-2026 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Before the war began name 10 Americans killed unprovoked by Iran in the last 10 years.
now do osama on 9/10.
Old 03-17-2026 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AverageGPA
Crude oil was 20% higher in 2022 than it is right now.

Just more politically motivated histrionics & faux outrage. How tiresome.
Explain how opposing a hot war in the ME with a country we apparently don’t understand (“we never thought they would bomb our bases”) and controls the most important waterway in the world is political histrionics/faux outrage. I think you are trying to squeeze a non-partisan issue into a partisan bottle.
Old 03-17-2026 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Uninteresting
now do osama on 9/10.
What are you talking about? Are you suggesting we are still getting revenge for 9/11 or that Iran was involved?
Old 03-17-2026 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Explain how opposing a hot war in the ME with a country we apparently don’t understand (“we never thought they would bomb our bases”) and controls the most important waterway in the world is political histrionics/faux outrage. I think you are trying to squeeze a non-partisan issue into a partisan bottle.
Read that dude’s posts and tell me it’s not partisan nonsense.

I don’t have to squeeze anything. He plainly states it in multiple posts.
Old 03-17-2026 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tripled
filling a power vacuum. What do you say the pallets were for
Its not what I say or my opinion, it's reality.

If you are interested google "The Algiers Accords & the Iran-US Claims Tribunal".

The payments made during the Obama administration were the last made by the US to Iran. The lawsuit dates back to 1981. If I recall, $1.7 billion was paid to Iran from the US and $2.5 billion was payed from Iran to the US. The money went to individuals, companies and both governments. The reason the payments were made in cash was because Iran was under sanctions and didn't have access to the international banking system.

You know, when you silo yourself in a information echo chamber in an environment where both foreign and domestic actors are trying to manipulate public opinion, you are surrendering your sovereignty. You are literally allowing people who you have never met, people who's motivations you don't understand to control what you think.

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Old 03-17-2026 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MeteorA113
Too many and not enough saying "well hold on". Even a US Intelligence Officer (who was appointed by Trump) resigned. This operation is not going anywhere near close to well and it shows.
Are you aware of this guy's history? Previously a Democrat and before that a Libertarian. He's also on record advocating that Iran is a major threat to the US and that we must eliminate their nuclear and missile capabilities. Here's a relevant quote from Jan 2020: “Trump’s restraint shows that he wants a deal with Iran & his red line is American loss of life & IR nuke development." So...which is it? Are they a threat or aren't they? I'm not denigrating his experience but the cards that he's played over the years show a shifting narrative and that deserves scrutiny.
Old 03-17-2026 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bazinga
Are you aware of this guy's history? Previously a Democrat and before that a Libertarian. He's also on record advocating that Iran is a major threat to the US and that we must eliminate their nuclear and missile capabilities. Here's a relevant quote from Jan 2020: “Trump’s restraint shows that he wants a deal with Iran & his red line is American loss of life & IR nuke development." So...which is it? Are they a threat or aren't they? I'm not denigrating his experience but the cards that he's played over the years show a shifting narrative and that deserves scrutiny.
Are you not concerned with the shifting narratives, sometimes minutes apart in the same press conference, from our current elected officials and political appointees?
Old 03-17-2026 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AverageGPA
Read that dude’s posts and tell me it’s not partisan nonsense.

I don’t have to squeeze anything. He plainly states it in multiple posts.
Criticism doesn’t have to be partisan. One of the primary cores of a critical thinker is to question the ground they stand on. Not the other guy’s across the table. Being concerned and questioning the current state of affairs is not an invalid take. Particularly in light of the flip flopping narrative. Despise both sides equally. Its awesome
Old 03-17-2026 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Extenda
Are you not concerned with the shifting narratives, sometimes minutes apart in the same press conference, from our current elected officials and political appointees?
Unpredictability is an incredible strength on the world stage.
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