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Old 03-19-2026 | 08:51 AM
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Thinking about cancelling the AE with what’s going on in the world?
No worries Delta has the refinery
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Old 03-19-2026 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DETSports
Thinking about cancelling the AE with what’s going on in the world?
Drill baby Drill !!!
Old 03-19-2026 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxQ
It is disingenuous to lump Iran's actions after the USA pulled out of the treaty together with their actions from 2015 to 2018. It became substantially more aggressive post agreement rupture.
Any moderation of Iran's behavior was then cut off by.

I have no special insight to the ME or Iran, but it doesn't take a genius to see that pulling out of the agreement essentially told Iranian leadership that there would never be a negotiated truce with Israel/America.
it also told them that, due to America's political system and current interpretation of Presidential powers, an agreement with the USA lacks any lasting relevance.
They were now in a completely Hobbesian world of war of all against all.

Hence the sowing of the wind has led to the reaping of the whirlwind.
in your opinion is Iran a trustworthy negotiator. And if so can you provide evidence upon which one can establish and maintain that trust.
Old 03-19-2026 | 11:20 AM
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Of course they did. They are the ones that NEED the strait open, not us. If you paid attention to how this ran down, it was a brilliant piece of maneuvering on our part.
Old 03-19-2026 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxQ
It is disingenuous to lump Iran's actions after the USA pulled out of the treaty together with their actions from 2015 to 2018.
It wasn't a treaty. It was an agreement made by the administration at the time. Although it may seem like a minor detail, it isn't.

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Old 03-19-2026 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxQ
It is disingenuous to lump Iran's actions after the USA pulled out of the treaty together with their actions from 2015 to 2018. It became substantially more aggressive post agreement rupture.
Any moderation of Iran's behavior was then cut off by.

I have no special insight to the ME or Iran, but it doesn't take a genius to see that pulling out of the agreement essentially told Iranian leadership that there would never be a negotiated truce with Israel/America.
it also told them that, due to America's political system and current interpretation of Presidential powers, an agreement with the USA lacks any lasting relevance.
They were now in a completely Hobbesian world of war of all against all.

Hence the sowing of the wind has led to the reaping of the whirlwind.
You talking about the agreement where we were paying Iran $$$ and meanwhile they were spinning centrifuges and developing ICBMs? That agreement? Yeah it only worked out well for one party, that was Iran. Until cancelled, as it should have been. Iran was never going to stop in it's pursuit of a nuclear weapon(s). Iran was never going to stop pursuit of an "organically" developed ICBM. Never. Furthermore, Iran never in the past has negotiated in good faith (see UN, IAEA inspections etc etc etc).

The "war against all" is actually a good sign that the entire structure of the terrorist regime has come apart. They bombed Qatar. Their most staunch ally in the region. They continue to fracture, further destabilizing and thus less of a threat to the people of Iran, who want nothing more than to toss the Mullahs and the rest of that apparatus into the pit.

There's always been 2 screens in Iran. On one screen you have the "elected" government. On the other screen you have the IRGC. The "elected" side is the one you negotiate with and basically represents any other states' official recognized government (the ones you negotiate with, represent their country at international bodies, staff embassies etc). The IRGC side is the ones that do all the dirty work behind the scenes but make no mistake, they are just as equal if not more powerful than the "elected" screen.

The 2 screens were connected, usually by a strong man put in place to work between the "elected" side and the IRGC side. The last connection between the screens was eliminated when Larijani was erased. The Iranian President asked the IRGC to stop bombing all the gulf states. They keep bombing them. The Iranian President wants to quit, but he can't, he also doesn't want to get vaporized. He has no power over the IRGC. So now we have one side, the IRGC. They are a fragmented group of power players and will kill each other off to get the power. They are struggling internally for the power grab, as they do so, they become more weakened by the day. Separating the screens was an objective of this campaign, it is a center of gravity. It was targeted and will be continually targeted. As they grow weaker from infighting and ankle biting the strength of the people grows. Only a matter of time now before it unravels.

War powers. 3 votes now on that. All struck down. That is implied consent. Funny never saw this when Libya, Syria, were going on. Have patience, let the man cook.
Old 03-19-2026 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Of course they did. They are the ones that NEED the strait open, not us. If you paid attention to how this ran down, it was a brilliant piece of maneuvering on our part.
yup, aggrevated by the qatar LNG attack, europe decides to put on its big boy pants.
Old 03-19-2026 | 12:46 PM
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No more sanctions on Russian AND Iranian oil! Are we winning yet!?
Old 03-19-2026 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
No more sanctions on Russian AND Iranian oil! Are we winning yet!?
This admin could cure childhood cancer, and the opposition would complain that they were putting oncologists out of a job.

Deeply unserious group of people.
Old 03-19-2026 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Of course they did. They are the ones that NEED the strait open, not us. If you paid attention to how this ran down, it was a brilliant piece of maneuvering on our part.
Yes, very brilliant to bomb a school and kill 168 little girls. Very brilliant to get all our bases in the region bombed. Very brilliant to not plan for retaliation bombs. Brilliant planning to not expect Israel to go rogue. All brilliant. Also brilliant that we won the war on day 1. And that $200 billion we are going to have to borrow from
our grandkids? Just brilliant.
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