Hormuz impacts
03-12-2026 | 10:39 AM
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The USNI reference above (You might at least read it. I gave it to you for a reason) disagrees with you:
Normally, an SSN must have at least 50-60 feet of water under its keel for navigational safety; the corresponding depth for an SSK is 30-40 feet. A submarine must sail relatively close to the sea surface to use its periscope or snorkel for communications. For example, the periscope depth for a U.S. SSN is about 50 feet.
SSNs, with their high sustained speed and almost unlimited endurance while submerged, are the best platforms against enemy submarines. They can attack a great variety of targets, both on the surface and deep into the enemy shore. The very presence of an SSN in certain areas can have not only operational but strategic effects on enemy deployments and movements of merchant shipping.
03-12-2026 | 10:47 AM
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maybe swap the words murder and kill. Unless he thinks we intentionally hit school kids (bordering) near a military base and their ‘police’ just happened to throw some bullets toward their own people. Intent might matter.
my bigger question is why does the Iranian govt get to squeeze oil transport for the rest of us? Must everyone let this be so?
my bigger question is why does the Iranian govt get to squeeze oil transport for the rest of us? Must everyone let this be so?
Also, the control the strait because they have historically had an imposing enough military force that disrupting the order wasn't worth it. It's that way around the world. You can ask that question about any number of major waterways throughout history and there would be defenders and complaints from both sides.
03-12-2026 | 10:53 AM
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It is not going to happen. Just pretend some of us have naval planning experience.
PS: the USNI article does not disagree with me, it talks nothing of the such
03-12-2026 | 10:55 AM
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Based on Iranian messaging today it doesn't sound like the Hormuz will open anytime soon which will have drastic impact on the Global economy. Food shortages in Asia and South America could be widespread due to the fertilizer backlog. Right before planting season too.
No food shortage in the US put with all the whining going on about 3% inflation the 5-10% inflationary impact might cause significant angst. Brave New World
No food shortage in the US put with all the whining going on about 3% inflation the 5-10% inflationary impact might cause significant angst. Brave New World
03-12-2026 | 11:21 AM
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Based on Iranian messaging today it doesn't sound like the Hormuz will open anytime soon which will have drastic impact on the Global economy. Food shortages in Asia and South America could be widespread due to the fertilizer backlog. Right before planting season too.
No food shortage in the US put with all the whining going on about 3% inflation the 5-10% inflationary impact might cause significant angst. Brave New World
No food shortage in the US put with all the whining going on about 3% inflation the 5-10% inflationary impact might cause significant angst. Brave New World
Yeah, another post that won't age well
03-12-2026 | 11:33 AM
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Based on Iranian messaging today it doesn't sound like the Hormuz will open anytime soon which will have drastic impact on the Global economy. Food shortages in Asia and South America could be widespread due to the fertilizer backlog. Right before planting season too.
No food shortage in the US put with all the whining going on about 3% inflation the 5-10% inflationary impact might cause significant angst. Brave New World
No food shortage in the US put with all the whining going on about 3% inflation the 5-10% inflationary impact might cause significant angst. Brave New World
03-12-2026 | 11:35 AM
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I don't disagree..but I also don't think there will be zero impact and that there still isn't a legitimate threat to freighters in the Strait by drones. They may not 'control' it but insurance companies won't insure transit if there is a threat. And we know underwriters actually run the world.
03-12-2026 | 11:39 AM
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I don't disagree..but I also don't think there will be zero impact and that there still isn't a legitimate threat to freighters in the Strait by drones. They may not 'control' it but insurance companies won't insure transit if there is a threat. And we know underwriters actually run the world.
03-12-2026 | 11:39 AM
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From: UNA
It is incumbent on the aggressor, the preemptive striker and the self-proclaimed good guys to determine if what you are dropping bombs on are strategically relevant military targets or elementary schools for girls. It doesn't matter what word you use to describe it. If (insert country) bombed (insert US military base) and hit an elementary School, would you just be like "oops. They must've had bad intel. *Shrug.*
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