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scambo1 05-21-2012 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Superdad (Post 1193161)
The blurb about our TA on DALnet says voting ends June 30, why are we getting information about our contract from the company and not our union???????

As far as I'm concerned, it can end May 22.

buzzpat 05-21-2012 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1193170)
As far as I'm concerned, it can end May 22.

Yep. Don't waste my dues on road shows and free beer. TA sucks....next.

slowplay 05-21-2012 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1193166)
Oh that's right! $2B = 20% vice 15%, correct? That could lead to a 12-13% bump under the CURRENT contract!

Actually the trigger for 20% Profit Sharing is $2.5 billion PTIX. That remains unchanged.

slowplay 05-21-2012 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1193170)
As far as I'm concerned, it can end May 22.

Of course it can...you're spending most of your life in an underground nuclear bunker in Omaha...right?:D

scambo1 05-21-2012 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1193173)
Actually the trigger for 20% Profit Sharing is $2.5 billion PTIX. That remains unchanged.

Slow;

There is a TA positives thread just waiting for you to fill it up.

80ktsClamp 05-21-2012 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1193173)
Actually the trigger for 20% Profit Sharing is $2.5 billion PTIX. That remains unchanged.

It's just the below that which was cut down to 10%. They seem to not be spouting off on that detail.

I feel embarrassed for the negotiators. There are some (only some) good work rules improvements, but the pay is just absolutely insulting.

This is a wash if not concessionary.

Superdad 05-21-2012 01:01 PM

I hated to do it, but I sent in a card for DPA after reading the Chairman's letter. I then emailed my rep and thanked the him for voting no but I told him that I could no longer support ALPA and would now be supporting the decertification of ALPA.


For those of you in council 1 you got an email from our reps outlining why they voted no. For the rest of you let me summarize. Basically they said that they believed that the negotiating committee did not follow the will of the pilot group as outlined by the contract survey.

Basically we spoke and ALPA listened to the company and ignored us


bye bye alpa

brakechatter 05-21-2012 01:01 PM

From Bloomberg. Read very carefully:

Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) may soon purchase more narrow-body jets when a tentative contract with its pilot union is ratified by a majority of members.
The accord, which includes pay raises of almost 20 percent, would allow many first officers to upgrade to captain while also creating additional openings for new first officers, Tim O’Malley, chairman of the executive council for the Delta chapter of the Air Line Pilots Association, wrote today in a letter to members.

The contract would also allow the Atlanta-based airline to add more 76-seat regional jets, although “this access can only occur if Delta first acquires small narrow-body jets flown by Delta mainline pilots,” while also getting rid of more 50-seat aircraft flown by regional partners, O’Malley said. Pilots prize jobs on main jet fleets because it means better pay and benefits over the long term.
Analysts have speculated that Delta is among the interested buyers of the 88 Boeing Co. (BA) 717s that Southwest Airlines Co. (LUV) acquired when it purchased AirTran Holdings Inc. last year. Southwest has said repeatedly it would like to get rid of the planes as soon as it can.

The jets have 117 seats and if acquired by Delta would be flown by the carrier’s pilots rather than by regional partners.

scambo1 05-21-2012 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1193175)
Of course it can...you're spending most of your life in an underground nuclear bunker in Omaha...right?:D

I guess that was witty and engaging.

What did you do to save your company from its pilots today Slow?

I guess you're here to monitor and guage sentiment so you can report back about the enemy.:confused:

80ktsClamp 05-21-2012 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by brakechatter (Post 1193183)
From Bloomberg. Read very carefully:

Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) may soon purchase more narrow-body jets when a tentative contract with its pilot union is ratified by a majority of members.
The accord, which includes pay raises of almost 20 percent, would allow many first officers to upgrade to captain while also creating additional openings for new first officers, Tim O’Malley, chairman of the executive council for the Delta chapter of the Air Line Pilots Association, wrote today in a letter to members.

The contract would also allow the Atlanta-based airline to add more 76-seat regional jets, although “this access can only occur if Delta first acquires small narrow-body jets flown by Delta mainline pilots,” while also getting rid of more 50-seat aircraft flown by regional partners, O’Malley said. Pilots prize jobs on main jet fleets because it means better pay and benefits over the long term.
Analysts have speculated that Delta is among the interested buyers of the 88 Boeing Co. (BA) 717s that Southwest Airlines Co. (LUV) acquired when it purchased AirTran Holdings Inc. last year. Southwest has said repeatedly it would like to get rid of the planes as soon as it can.

The jets have 117 seats and if acquired by Delta would be flown by the carrier’s pilots rather than by regional partners.

That is my understanding of the 76 seat clause. The mainline fleet has to get back above 767 airplanes and is tied to the 76 seat purchase.


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