Again slowplay, your argument is not with me. It's with the LEC reps who have stated in writing that the TA is cost neutral.

Just as the LEC reps have stated in writing that the MEC is too invested in this product to talk about it objectively.

Your baby is ugly.

Carl

Sounds like there is quite the poo fest over at the DALPA forum. For those of you who don't frequent it it seems there are at least two individuals who are being paid flight pay loss and trip drop to man the phones and post on the DALPA forum to sell the TA. One is a former MEC Committee Chairman who recently left DALPA to return to the line. JPIV is also receiving FPL. They are the two most vocal on the forum.

Makes one wonder if Alfaromeo and Slowplay are included in the largess. No surprise if Slowplay is, it's his job. But, what about Alfafromeo? FPL or trip drop?

Once again, some animals are more equal than others.

I'm sure that it has been hashed out here before, but the DPN Network is staffed by the negotiators. As in the guys at the table. If you want some interesting details please please call. They are very forthcoming with info and what went on at the table. I was very surprised that a member of the neg. team answered the phone. Call. You will be enlightened. Now, back to lurking.

R 1

If you don't like the numbers, please provide us with Delta's actual MD88, MD90, 738, 737, 320, 319, DC9, estimated 717 and all of the RJ CASMs. You can group the RJ CASMs together by seat size if it helps.

And forgive us if we don't just take your word for it, afterall, you committee guys are trying to get us to buy off on this thing like a frantic used car dealer. We'd like hard numbers.

Thanks.
FTB

A few folks are saying "oh crap" right now.......

LOA #11 page 422

Thanks fly!

is she a military pilot ?

Here I put the link of the source data at the bottom...



But I kept the dudes in the background.

I think my issue with this, imho scope concession, is we're expanding the threat to our jobs in exchange for diminishing the non-threat aircraft. I think if I could pull a trick, like this scope concession, on someone I'd be biting my tongue the entire time trying not to laugh and scream SUCKER!

Also, the press release in August for the 739 order specifically said there were being ordered to replace the 763s, 757s and A320s. Note what's missing? The MD-88. http://multivu.prnewswire.com/mnr/delta/47827/

I think that 88 B717s is about 75% of the current 88 fleet. Add in 90s and CRJ900s and you've pretty much replaced that fleet. So I just don't see much hiring with the 717... especially if they come with pilots... so I just don't see that as a good carrot. I am afraid come DOS we're just going to get beat over the head by the stick that was holding that carrot. I always envisioned 717s as growth aircraft, till they got tied IN THE TA to CRJ-900s. source: TA

Then it became clear they 717s are not growth aircraft.