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Old 05-27-2012 | 07:34 PM
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Oh by the way this:



came from here... Random Thoughts on Delta and the MD-90 - Things in the Sky

Don't want to be accused of making stuff up.
Old 05-27-2012 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid


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I was going to say whereas some throw mud, I throw love, but then I saw that old pic in the library and just wanted to run it again. So I guess that's throwing mud.

ya'll have a good night.
Later man...you freakin crack me up!

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Old 05-27-2012 | 07:35 PM
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Hey Gang,

Does anyone know what the life span of the 88 is? I.e. when will that fateful "heavycheck" park it in the desert. I saw in section one where they get to run the 76 seaters up to 223 for 1.25 mainline narrow bodies, but didn't see anything about those 76 seaters being parked if we lose other narrow bodies. Like the 9s they'll park as soon as we get the 717s.

I did read the block hour thing, but IMO the RJs should be tied to our narrow body fleet.

Another thing thats probably already been talked about; I read that if they acquire another airline we have to combine our lists if we want them to operate as a single carrier. Doesn't this mean they can buy whoever they want and we can't do much to discourage it? Isn't merging with another really young pilot group going to hamper our carriers more than anything else?

Thanks
Old 05-27-2012 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I understand you're upset and emotional. It happens. But I won't subject this thread anymore to your need for self-affirmation. You can continue your little war via PM if you like, but I'll be sparing the thread any more of this.

Carl
Your tucking your tail and running away noted. Typical of the cowardly keyboard kommando.

You've made plain your lack of integrity on this exchange. Have a nice life, and hopefully enjoy the early retirement, sans any Tanksley monies.

You can't handle the truth.

Originally Posted by scambo1

You can choose to believe whatever you want, but you poison the (reasoning) pool if you put your hope and theory out there as fact.
Old 05-27-2012 | 07:49 PM
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ALFA and Slow;

I'll go with FTBs numbers - unless you show us the "real" numbers...Oh yeah, you signed a non-disclosure agreement. Put the numbers up or stay distanced from those you are supposed to represent. We already know how you chose. FTBs numbers are certainly close enough for real comparison and we all know it...so please quit saying we don't.

A vote to outsource 70 more 76 seat jets is a vote to outsource 2 more Compass sized airlines...or its also a vote to outsource 35 737-800s (based on size and economics).

The only reason to further outsource them is that DAL wants zero seniority guys in the seats to further whipsaw other companies (and us). Most of the regionals are getting kinda senior. Just talked to an ASA (expressjet) guy the other day, 11 year 76 seat Capt, made $115K last two years...and we cant fly them competitively at mainline...really?

More outsourcing, RAH carveout, Alaska loophole continued, mandated hiring of ALPA represented DCI...promises and more loopholes. Do I really need to read past section 1 to vote?
Old 05-27-2012 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
ALFA and Slow;

I'll go with FTBs numbers - unless you show us the "real" numbers...Oh yeah, you signed a non-disclosure agreement. Put the numbers up or stay distanced from those you are supposed to represent. We already know how you chose. FTBs numbers are certainly close enough for real comparison and we all know it...so please quit saying we don't.

A vote to outsource 70 more 76 seat jets is a vote to outsource 2 more Compass sized airlines...or its also a vote to outsource 35 737-800s (based on size and economics).

The only reason to further outsource them is that DAL wants zero seniority guys in the seats to further whipsaw other companies (and us). Most of the regionals are getting kinda senior. Just talked to an ASA (expressjet) guy the other day, 11 year 76 seat Capt, made $115K last two years...and we cant fly them competitively at mainline...really?

More outsourcing, RAH carveout, Alaska loophole continued, mandated hiring of ALPA represented DCI...promises and more loopholes. Do I really need to read past section 1 to vote?
Man is that ever a troubling comparison.

Carl
Old 05-27-2012 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Kargo
Hey Gang,

Does anyone know what the life span of the 88 is? I.e. when will that fateful "heavycheck" park it in the desert. I saw in section one where they get to run the 76 seaters up to 223 for 1.25 mainline narrow bodies, but didn't see anything about those 76 seaters being parked if we lose other narrow bodies. Like the 9s they'll park as soon as we get the 717s.

I did read the block hour thing, but IMO the RJs should be tied to our narrow body fleet.

Another thing thats probably already been talked about; I read that if they acquire another airline we have to combine our lists if we want them to operate as a single carrier. Doesn't this mean they can buy whoever they want and we can't do much to discourage it? Isn't merging with another really young pilot group going to hamper our carriers more than anything else?

Thanks
Go back and look at the Fall 09 UpFront article on the 88s lifespan. They put it at 110,000 to 150,000 cycles or about 20-30 more years on them or they're at their half life right now. I don't know about heavy checks but I know the corporate airplane I ran had 4 years between the big heavy inspections. The problem is as time goes on that 4 year span changes and becomes less and less.

Of course they'll also need the avionics upgrades to continue and hopefully the fuel economy doesn't bite it because frankly, they're fun airplanes to fly.

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A vote to outsource 70 more 76 seat jets is a vote to outsource 2 more Compass sized airlines.
Old 05-27-2012 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
ALFA and Slow;

I'll go with FTBs numbers - unless you show us the "real" numbers...Oh yeah, you signed a non-disclosure agreement. Put the numbers up or stay distanced from those you are supposed to represent. We already know how you chose. FTBs numbers are certainly close enough for real comparison and we all know it...so please quit saying we don't.
In a previous response you posted perfectly

Originally Posted by scambo1

You can choose to believe whatever you want, but you poison the (reasoning) pool if you put your hope and theory out there as fact.
Old 05-27-2012 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
One of the advantages of working for a large union .
Does any one else have a problem with this?
Old 05-27-2012 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
In a previous response you posted perfectly

Yes, I did and another fact is that the company's savings to avoid doing heavy maintenance on the 50 seaters was not monetized in our cost neutral 3 year bankruptcy extension TA.

"We heard you loud and clear."

"We won't rush..."

The spin machine, funded by Delta paid FPL, is in full force.
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