You are confusing Whitlow with the contract. Your duty day contractually always starts at the report of your trip. Whitlow is a add on rule as a result of the American Accident in Little Rock. It requires that in any 24 hour period you can look back and find 8 hours of rest from any company requirements including answering the phone on reserve. That limits reserve to 16 hours max as a practical matter. Whitlow does not apply to international.

Yep! That's why. They can fix the glitch then. :)

Yes commuting is still a choice because if you just had bought your house in MSP before you got hired then you wouldn't have had this problem. Which is true for anyone contemplating interviewing with Delta, you need to purchase your house now in the base you hope to get.

Although, I was told the other day living in base is a choice or something because if you get MD'd off your equipment to a smaller paying one then that's your fault for not commuting to a higher paying one. So commuting or not commuting is a choice and will be used against you in whatever way is necessary to the it's all your fault narrative.

So just remember, going to work is a choice. You choose to do it. And everything that happens after that is all your fault.

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No, its correct. Under the new scheduling rules your projection or guarantee is reduced by vacation training etc. What you see is your guarantee there minus those two reserve days that you will be in training; pro ratta. They are correct.

True. And from what I have seen, the computers do not have whitlow programming for reserves. You are on your own to keep yourself out of trouble. Same thing has happened to me more than once.

Being the second day under this contract, why is the old contract still on the DELTAnet homepage?

Well, if I had a kid that the Huskies ground into the dirt and he refused to ever stand up again, the other kids would wind up calling him Wheels. Or Ricky Bobby.

Here, this may help...

http://www.retrojunk.com/content/article/6843/index/

I'm the one with the "Number 7" shirt. Wheels is to my left.

I seriously hope that is a nick name. Wheels? :eek:

Not from my experience. They computer FAR duty time. If you are assigned SC and subsequently assigned a trip, when you go sign in for the rotation it will show your FAR duty time on the bottom. DBMS will not compute duty time from the start of SC for a Flag operated trip, and only for one under domestic rules. The computer does keep track of it.

Now if they put it on your sked wrong, or build the rotation incorrectly, that is a different story. All things being correct, DBMS protects for whitlow, which btw should be a non event with the new ft/dt rigs in late 2013.

Whitlow does not apply for the PWA duty day limitations, only for total duty. Contractually SC without assignment is not duty and therefore does not apply towards the act/max duty day you see on a rotation. That limitation is from report. Whitlow works outside of that. DBMS will look at both. I have been assigned may trips domestically on SC that were going to be close. Everyone of them that ran in to an issue was being watched by scheduling and I was removed when it looked like we could not takeoff without there being a whitlow violation.

Probably because not all of the new contract items are applicable yet.