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Denny Crane 08-15-2012 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1245931)
Ugh. Not even 200 guys.........:(

Well, the R&I guy says there are 65 mandatory retirements by 12/31/13 that did NOT take the early retirement sooooo he says there will be 256 retirements by 12/31/13.:cool:

Denny

acl65pilot 08-15-2012 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1245960)
Well, the R&I guy says there are 65 mandatory retirements by 12/31/13 that did NOT take the early retirement sooooo he says there will be 256 retirements by 12/31/13.:cool:

Denny

That's a way to make the numbers look better........

johnso29 08-15-2012 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1245960)
Well, the R&I guy says there are 65 mandatory retirements by 12/31/13 that did NOT take the early retirement sooooo he says there will be 256 retirements by 12/31/13.:cool:

Denny

So anyone know how many recall guys are left?

acl65pilot 08-15-2012 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1245964)
So anyone know how many recall guys are left?

Thought it was around 250. Most are planning on taking it from the ones I have talked to. We will see if that pans out at decision time.

sailingfun 08-15-2012 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by APCLurker (Post 1245938)
^^^^^ This


As said before during the TA discussions, the rosy predictions and great "numbers" often don't seem to materialize as advertised.

How many of those 88 717's are going to actually be growth aircraft? The devil is in the details. Details which have not yet fully materialized.

All 88 are growth aircraft to the mainline. If the economy collapses and the company plans a large decrease in overall capacity then we will see fewer pilots jobs. Regardless of the economy however we will have 88 more airframes at the mainline. How anyone can believe that is a bad thing utterly eludes me. The key to the 717's is they are not a increase in capacity but a shift in flying from DCI to the mainline. That is far more viable long term flying then planned future fleet increases given the economic situation. No matter how the economy plays out the 717's are a huge boost to the mainline.
I guess for some the glass is half full, for others its half empty, for many APC posters its cracking and leaking.

sailingfun 08-15-2012 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1245955)
That goes to all current and former pilots. Kind of crazy to do this unless they don't want it sitting there.

How can that be? They can't be returning money. DPA still swears that all Delta pilots will see a dues increase in Oct.

sailingfun 08-15-2012 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1245931)
Ugh. Not even 200 guys.........:(

However the 191 going have more value then the 250 they hoped for since they are far younger then the group that was targeted.

acl65pilot 08-15-2012 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1245977)
How can that be? They can't be returning money. DPA still swears that all Delta pilots will see a dues increase in Oct.

DPA is full of crap. On the refund, that is exactly what King said a year ago. If they refund the account it goes to those that paid in to it.

groundstop 08-15-2012 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1245974)
All 88 are growth aircraft to the mainline. If the economy collapses and the company plans a large decrease in overall capacity then we will see fewer pilots jobs. Regardless of the economy however we will have 88 more airframes at the mainline. How anyone can believe that is a bad thing utterly eludes me. The key to the 717's is they are not a increase in capacity but a shift in flying from DCI to the mainline. That is far more viable long term flying then planned future fleet increases given the economic situation. No matter how the economy plays out the 717's are a huge boost to the mainline.
I guess for some the glass is half full, for others its half empty, for many APC posters its cracking and leaking.

The TA passed, you can stop the sell job. It's like my car salesman showing up to my house asking me what it's going to take to get me in the car that I already bought... or should I say the car that was forced on me.

We'll get em next time boys!

trlaketige 08-15-2012 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1245931)
Ugh. Not even 200 guys.........:(


That is depressing. I can't wait to hear the excuses next time I go to work. I realize it is their choice to stay. I would just like them to acknowledge that they got their position by having everyone senior to them retire at 60.

Tr


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