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Old 09-01-2012 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bohicagain
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Typical. People show proof that what he is doing has been accepted from past presidents and still complain about the way he does it.


On a second note can you guys give a quick explanation of how your reserve raw scores work?
Simple!!! ......


Reserve assignment weighting = [(A  C) x 75] + [(B  D) x 100] + (E x 5), where:
21 A = the reserve pilot’s credit hours accumulated in the bid period plus prorated credit
22 hours associated with his period of unpaid absence and/or vacation and/or training
23 (other than qualification or distributed training), if any. The number of prorated
24 hours associated with his period of unpaid absence and/or vacation and/or training
25 (other than qualification or distributed training) will be determined by multiplying the
26 number of days of his unpaid absence and/or vacation and/or training (other than
27 qualification or distributed training) by the reserve guarantee and then dividing that
28 product by 30 or 31 (days of the bid period).
29 B = the reserve pilot’s CROC days plus prorated CROC days associated with his period
30 of absence other than sick leave, if any (e.g., vacation, training, MLOA, PLOA). The
31 number of prorated CROC days associated with his period of absence other than sick
32 leave will be determined by multiplying the number of days of his absence by 18 (on33
call days per bid period) and then dividing that product by 30 or 31 (days of the bid
34 period).
35 C = the reserve guarantee.
36 D = number of on-call days in a full month of reserve.
37 E = the number of short call periods for which the pilot has been credited in the bid
38 period.


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Old 09-01-2012 | 06:23 PM
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I know its a little low class but couldn't resist....

Old 09-01-2012 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bohicagain
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Typical. People show proof that what he is doing has been accepted from past presidents and still complain about the way he does it.


On a second note can you guys give a quick explanation of how your reserve raw scores work?

The quick explanation is the more you fly or sit S/C the higher your RAW score.

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Old 09-01-2012 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
The quick explanation is the more you fly or sit S/C the higher your RAW score.

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Also, the more you call in sick or drop reserve days, the higher your RAW score goes. Vacation and training events also increase your RAW score. I was really bored on a very long deadhead home last trip so I plugged in my July values into the formula and I couldn't get it to work out. It was 10% off.

Reserve assignment weighting = [(A  C) x 75] + [(B  D) x 100] + (E x 5)
Old 09-01-2012 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Not a grammar nazi, but you must be posting on an iphone because you keep saying moo point and it is moot point.
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"The point is moo. It's what a cow thinks, it just does not matter" - Joey Tribiani
Old 09-01-2012 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cubdrick
Yes, I work 6+ days of MLOA a month which cuts into my DAL reserve available days. My DAL work months are around 24-25 days, so I have fewer X days as well.

On my paychecks I'll get $75-$500+ coded as USERRA. I've been told this money is to "make up / offset" for monies "lost" from the Company savings plan (the 2%/12%) since my income earned at DAL is less. Essentially the amount of money paid into my savings plan is the same whether or not I use MLOA in a given month.
I am not aware of getting a makeup check when I come back, but Delta has been contributing to my 401k since the merger.
Old 09-01-2012 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Not a grammar nazi, but you must be posting on an iphone because you keep saying moo point and it is moot point. I know I've had my share of misspellings.

On the 777, senior reserves skate out of short call and callouts too. Junior reserves do 6 sc's a month.

I think readily available pilots are gold to schedulers in every category...I think they'd like to have everyone live in base and be on s/c 24/7.

Being on reserve can be a good deal - like you had last winter. It can also be a bad deal because daily credit stinks - hard time is hard to come by domestically on reserve - the deck is stacked against you. I have had domestic months like Elvis had and I was younger. They still kicked my butt. Put yourself in the miserable shoes of a commuting reserve narrowbody domestic pilot.

The only thing a domestic reserve pilot can hope for is to not work, but we all know hope rarely materializes into reality.
Exactly. I've never been senior at anything at Delta other than reserve, for awhile. Our current system, on both counts, reserve and regular, is the best I've seen since I was hired in early 2001. Unlike then, now I'm tempted to bid reserve because my QOL will be better than where I sit as a junior line holder. That opens up lines for junior guys. The grass is always greener, I know, but c'mon guys.
Old 09-01-2012 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Not a grammar nazi, but you must be posting on an iphone because you keep saying moo point and it is moot point. I know I've had my share of misspellings.

On the 777, senior reserves skate out of short call and callouts too. Junior reserves do 6 sc's a month.

I think readily available pilots are gold to schedulers in every category...I think they'd like to have everyone live in base and be on s/c 24/7.

Being on reserve can be a good deal - like you had last winter. It can also be a bad deal because daily credit stinks - hard time is hard to come by domestically on reserve - the deck is stacked against you. I have had domestic months like Elvis had and I was younger. They still kicked my butt. Put yourself in the miserable shoes of a commuting reserve narrowbody domestic pilot.

The only thing a domestic reserve pilot can hope for is to not work, but we all know hope rarely materializes into reality.




I have to say, I did 3 years of reserve under the raw system and have been under this system since it started. Long call under the old system in my view was better for more pilots and the same QOL for senior pilots. SC under the new system is better for all pilots.

I've been on the horn with DALPA about this since January and basically their reply is this:
  • 80 raw score represents 5 or 6 days flying and a short call and that is why we will stick with it. It's low enough.
  • This implementation was exactly designed to bring seniority back into the reserve system.
  • Under the old reserve system senior pilots did not fly for weeks and junior pilots broke guarantee on a regular basis. The company wanted to equal this situation out hence the RUO/RAW system, but that relegated seniority out of the system, the SOT was directed to correct it, company said no, SOT pushed for YS to a point or as far as we could.
  • Upon reply80 raw score is not too high, it only represents 5 or 6 days of flying plus a short call.

See that part about the company wanting to equal out the situation? I think they will figure out a way making it a... well... I mean who cares what a cow thinks?

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Old 09-01-2012 | 06:44 PM
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Thread tangent: our long layover hotel in SFO is a youth hostel. Nice location but.........
Old 09-01-2012 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Thread tangent: our long layover hotel in SFO is a youth hostel. Nice location but.........
but.... hot young jailbait stickerboob??


I did the long OAK layover last night... looong van ride this morning, and even better the van driver fell asleep at the wheel this morning. When he woke up he jumped and jerked the wheel to the right. I think we all thought we were gone. The FA in front of me was the only one not wearing a seatbelt.... he quickly donned it.
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