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forgot to bid 09-26-2012 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1266612)
Each merger is different. DOH may work for some, relative for others. Then you have various methods like pull and plug for retirements or one top heavy group versus another, zippering the list in whole or starting at a specific point, a staple or any combination.

You could pull and plug a given amount, zipper a given amount, blend an amount with relative and then staple a certain amount, all in the same merger. Then there's fences and freezes as well. Everyone will tout their "gold standard" which will be whatever serves them the best. That is why they almost always go to arbitration.

DL and NW were much, much closer across the board than DL and HI would be on many seniority related issues. I would expect DALPA to resist a full on relative integration with all available resources, just as I would expect HALPA to "go for it" because hey, why not?

And if you merge with AMR, you adopt their staple policy...


forgot to bid 09-26-2012 04:16 AM

So is HNL > NRT?

TANSTAAFL 09-26-2012 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1266673)
And if you merge with AMR, you adopt their staple policy...


That is one gorgeous paint job!

tsquare 09-26-2012 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1266546)
Hey. I'm gonna resign my seniority and get on with the NFL. Apparently, they need officials. Might be a short-lived career but they don't have FOQA, or ASAP, apparently. Whose in with me?? ;)

They have FOQA... it's called "instant replay", and the data is NOT de-identified. They DO have a good retirement plan though

tsquare 09-26-2012 04:47 AM

The HI pilots will win... big time.

flyallnite 09-26-2012 04:53 AM

Or...

According to the Financial Times, Brussels is lobbying Washington to relax stringent foreign ownership rules for airlines. Europe believes more international M&A would help the combined EU and U.S. carriers to better compete with fast-growing rivals in the Gulf and China.

nwaf16dude 09-26-2012 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1266681)
The HI pilots will win... big time.

It's not a zero-sum game. Just because the HI pilots would get a big win doesn't mean we'd get an equally big loss. How hard is it on us to absorb 600 pilot scattered around our list when they bring 25 wide-bodies and a very complimentary route structure? As long as there are no fences, I don't see it as being that big of a deal.

Columbia 09-26-2012 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1266689)
It's not a zero-sum game. Just because the HI pilots would get a big win doesn't mean we'd get an equally big loss. How hard is it on us to absorb 600 pilot scattered around our list when they bring 25 wide-bodies and a very complimentary route structure? As long as there are no fences, I don't see it as being that big of a deal.

depends on where you are on the list. No merger has grown lists. 1+1 usually = 1.7 when it's all said and done.

Thrust Normal 09-26-2012 05:09 AM

Anyone see these little nuggets...
Brussels seen pushing for EU-U.S. airline mergers

EU Revives Plans to End Limits on Foreign Airline Stakes

Bucking Bar 09-26-2012 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1266400)
Ask crappy questions, you get crappy answers. Details matter.

Thanks for making my point, Bar.

Nu

Then allow me to re-phrase. Since my roots are in construction work, I still measure life in minutes per beer. Under C2012 my minutes to beer ratio fell from 2.86 to 2.66.* That is progress, besides, we live in the best country on Earth, if measured in minutes per beer. So I'm not going to let your come on this web board and trask talk the United States of America!

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