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Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1297588)
Yes. I think its about 260 or so, but not sure exactly. Most will have one final chance, but I think there are a few fNWA furloughs that were recalled and then refurloughed around 2006ish or so briefly? In any case there is a small demographic that will get several more years but I think most will have to decide when (if?) hiring begins again.
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1297571)
Happy Thanksgiving everybody!!! :) :)
Me, I was hoping for a green slip, but instead had to loosen my belt by a hole. |
18 degrees here in Minneapolis, wind howling past my hotel room window. Now I remember why I moved away from here 13 years ago.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1297486)
Take the time and look through the trips assigned in the last few days. You will find very few GS's. The only category out of a dozen I looked at with any significant numbers is the 777A category in ATL. One pilot posted about assignments like his category was really short. The assignment given out in his category was for a trip reporting 20 minutes later.
I count on the 20th when they were assigning the back half of the trips they had broken up from Monday that went into Thanksgiving, 8 were assigned to reserves and 9 went out on GS's and another 2 went out on IAs. |
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1297659)
Happy day after Thanksgiving everybody. I hope everyone had a great day wherever you were.
Me, I was hoping for a green slip, but instead had to loosen my belt by a hole. Now I'm double stuffed!:eek: I was Thankful the Patriots didn't do what they normally do, and choke. That was quite a second quarter they had last night, but I have no fear they will dissapoint me if/when they get to the Super Bowl. Question for Jet's Fans...why won't they put Tebow in?? Why did they even take him, and why do they pay him, if they are not going to use him, even when down by...30 POINTS! :rolleyes: They are 4-7 with Sanchez, and 5 turnovers last night. There is no downside, so when will they use him? OK, now for the important stuff: What about Saturday's college games: FL or FSU? Notre Dame or USC? |
Tebow says he has broken ribs.
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
(Post 1297697)
Tebow says he has broken ribs.
How, did he go skiing on his off days? :D I don't think he's been on the field enought to get hurt while playing! :eek: Sanchez tried to put his own head up that one guys arse, and couldn't even get that done! :rolleyes: That was pretty funny. |
"5 years at DAL, 5% up the list. At this average rate I will be holding A320 captain after 50 years at DAL! Almost guaranteed! Err, wait, the average male life expectancy says I'll be dead by then. I never wanted to use that tiller anyways"
Don't worry you are doing quite a bit better than the 2001 hires. I have moved up 9.44% in the last decade and 1.6% since 2008. The 1999-2001 hire group (Depends on if you were DAL or NW) does not break into the top 50% of the seniority list until 2022 (21-23 years after being hired they can be Jr. narrow body Capt.) So, with only 586 retirements between now and 2017 you should expect continued stagnation. Yes we are getting the 717's, but according to many people we are pretty fat with pilots and most of those position will come out of our current pilot group despite what the company and union led us to believe prior to the PWA being signed and have since backed away from. But hey what can we say. At least we are not 1999 hires at United, my brother is in that boat. "I was 10% from the bottom of the list pre SLI, 10% post SLI, and am around 3% better than that now, but way more junior than I was in ATL pre-SLI on a much smaller airplane. Gah![/QUOTE]" That would be expected when you merge with a company with that has 258 narrow body aircraft and 62 wide body aircraft. Then you shed 24% of those wide body aircraft (62-15 cargo 747)and 20% of the narrow body fleet (68 original DC9's -52). Every body moves down you are fat with pilots, you don't hire for years and pilots move to bases they deem more desirable which in the case of this merger appears to be LAX, ATL and SLC. I would say SEA but since it's not a hub and all:confused: Just to be fair the original Delta pilots did the same thing to the original Western pilot bases. It is what it is. |
Originally Posted by daldude
(Post 1297715)
"5 years at DAL, 5% up the list. At this average rate I will be holding A320 captain after 50 years at DAL! Almost guaranteed! Err, wait, the average male life expectancy says I'll be dead by then. I never wanted to use that tiller anyways"
Don't worry you are doing quite a bit better than the 2001 hires. I have moved up 9.44% in the last decade and 1.6% since 2008. The 1999-2001 hire group (Depends on if you were DAL or NW) does not break into the top 50% of the seniority list until 2022 (21-23 years after being hired they can be Jr. narrow body Capt.) So, with only 586 retirements between now and 2017 you should expect continued stagnation. Yes we are getting the 717's, but according to many people we are pretty fat with pilots and most of those position will come out of our current pilot group despite what the company and union led us to believe prior to the PWA being signed and have since backed away from. But hey what can we say. At least we are not 1999 hires at United, my brother is in that boat. "I was 10% from the bottom of the list pre SLI, 10% post SLI, and am around 3% better than that now, but way more junior than I was in ATL pre-SLI on a much smaller airplane. Gah! That would be expected when you merge with a company with that has 258 narrow body aircraft and 62 wide body aircraft. Then you shed 24% of those wide body aircraft (62-15 cargo 747)and 20% of the narrow body fleet (68 original DC9's -52). Every body moves down you are fat with pilots, you don't hire for years and pilots move to bases they deem more desirable which in the case of this merger appears to be LAX, ATL and SLC. I would say SEA but since it's not a hub and all Just to be fair the original Delta pilots did the same thing to the original Western pilot bases. It is what it is.[/QUOTE] You just made black Friday, inky black Friday:( |
Originally Posted by poostain
(Post 1297722)
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That would be expected when you merge with a company with that has 258 narrow body aircraft and 62 wide body aircraft. Then you shed 24% of those wide body aircraft (62-15 cargo 747)and 20% of the narrow body fleet (68 original DC9's -52). Every body moves down you are fat with pilots, you don't hire for years and pilots move to bases they deem more desirable which in the case of this merger appears to be LAX, ATL and SLC. I would say SEA but since it's not a hub and all Just to be fair the original Delta pilots did the same thing to the original Western pilot bases. It is what it is. Not sure why that post came out weird like that:confused: |
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