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newKnow 12-04-2012 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1305226)
Well, ideally, what do you see as the connection between the PWA and the "operation". Or in other words, from the time you sign in, to the time you're done, absent a reroute and rest, what sections of the contract apply directly to operation of the aircraft?

To me, there is a direct connection between the operation and the PWA. If I screw up in the operation, it is the PWA that gives the union the contractual right to represent me in any disciplinary matter. Is that correct?

scambo1 12-04-2012 07:58 PM

This horse needs some more beating.

The memo was poorly staffed and worded. It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last.

For the record, I think the word choice of line check "blitz" is a poor choice of words, but I don't think it rises to the level of "panties in a wad" bad. I thought the word choice of doing the walkaround "in the shadow of the aircraft" was a poor choice of words too. I remember when DAL memos used to be full of misspellings. Etc, etc, etc.

Hold that horses head, I'm gonna kick it in the nu...

Underboob, I'm beggin ya.

80ktsClamp 12-04-2012 08:01 PM

Anyone care to help me with finding chapter and verse on where alfa's claim that saying bye to the pax is in our manuals? I've searched high and low in the FOM.... no dice.

newKnow 12-04-2012 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1305255)
Anyone care to help me with finding chapter and verse on where alfa's claim that saying bye to the pax is in our manuals? I've searched high and low in the FOM.... no dice.

FOM Chapter 7.1.12 -- Passenger Deplaning

80ktsClamp 12-04-2012 08:27 PM

Ha, just found it and came back here and saw your post, newK.


Passenger Deplaning
While passengers are deplaning, a pilot should stand at the deplaning door to thankour customers whenever possible.
• Pilots should not deplane until all passengers have departed the aircraft,
unless early deplaning is necessary for operational reasons or passenger
assistance.
• Pilots will use good judgment not to interfere with any passenger or with
the normal deplaning flow.
Not anywhere near the strong wording that is in the gatehouse PA memo.

http://ericlightborn.files.wordpress...dead_horse.jpg

Denny Crane 12-04-2012 08:33 PM

Okay, here's a question. I'm going to training at the end of January. On the calendar portion of the PBS website, for the 2 days just prior to going to training it says PTP. Are these days blocked off for travel to training? That's the only thing I can think of but they are not listed on the VTS page in DBMS.

Thanks for any help.

Denny

newKnow 12-04-2012 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1305273)
Okay, here's a question. I'm going to training at the end of January. On the calendar portion of the PBS website, for the 2 days just prior to going to training it says PTP. Are these days blocked off for travel to training? That's the only thing I can think of but they are not listed on the VTS page in DBMS.

Thanks for any help.

Denny

That's what they are for, but I think you can make them optional when you bid.

You have to double-check me on that one for sure. :D

newKnow 12-04-2012 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1305272)
Ha, just found it and came back here and saw your post, newK.



Not anywhere near the strong wording that is in the gatehouse PA memo.

http://ericlightborn.files.wordpress...dead_horse.jpg

I knew you would find it. :)

Denny Crane 12-04-2012 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1305272)
Ha, just found it and came back here and saw your post, newK.



Not anywhere near the strong wording that is in the gatehouse PA memo.

http://ericlightborn.files.wordpress...dead_horse.jpg

If memory serves, isn't "should" the same word used in the memo? That's the key word in my book.

Denny

80ktsClamp 12-04-2012 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1305277)
If memory serves, isn't "should" the same word used in the memo? That's the key word in my book.

Denny

The memo uses "will" for the initial and "should" for the additional ones every 15 minutes.


Take that, horse!


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