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12-22-2012, 08:47 AM
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12-22-2012, 08:49 AM
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On a high note:
The connector is open, the connector is open
Cheers
George
The connector is open, the connector is open
Cheers
George
12-22-2012, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Schwanker
My question is why did we put the 35% in our contract. Was that for our best interest? Have no idea why it's in there.
12-22-2012, 09:33 AM
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Lee Moak. Isn't he a Delta pilot? Sheesh...
12-22-2012, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
The 35% is merely to guarantee interviews, and it cost absolutely nothing to put in the contract, and Delta has hired higher thn that percentage traditionally anyway... And also Because we belong to union and supporting your fellow dues paying members is good policy.
I have no problem with the terms of the proposed bridge agreement.
What's troubling is that the Pinnacle Bridge agreement was negotiated without input or feedback from Delta ALPA.
Essentially this is about the scope of our Union.
Is Delta ALPA the exclusive bargaining agent representing pilots towards Delta management,
or can any other pilot group walk up and cut their own deal with Delta management?
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12-22-2012, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
Signatories to the Pinnacle bridge agreement:
Richard H. Anderson
Delta Air Lines CEO
Captain Donald L. Moak
ALPA President
John Spanjers
Pinnacle Airlines President
Captain Tom Wychor
Pinnacle MEC Chairman
No DALPA representative present....
This is a really bad precedent and in violation of ALPA national policy.
We had to show them ours, they are equally required to show us theirs...
Again this is a concessionary contract with another pilot group that is being sold to that group with promises made by Delta to those pilots.
If this occurs unchallenged at Pinnacle, what will stop Delta from proceeding similarly with say the Virgin Atlantic pilots...
Cheers
George
Richard H. Anderson
Delta Air Lines CEO
Captain Donald L. Moak
ALPA President
John Spanjers
Pinnacle Airlines President
Captain Tom Wychor
Pinnacle MEC Chairman
No DALPA representative present....
This is a really bad precedent and in violation of ALPA national policy.
We had to show them ours, they are equally required to show us theirs...
Again this is a concessionary contract with another pilot group that is being sold to that group with promises made by Delta to those pilots.
If this occurs unchallenged at Pinnacle, what will stop Delta from proceeding similarly with say the Virgin Atlantic pilots...
Cheers
George
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12-22-2012, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Bar;
It is clear that this is worthy of an email to the reps. The focus is truly who bargains for whom...Not whether or not a guy paid for training, etc.
There is zero benefit for the DAL pilots here, only downside.
It is clear that this is worthy of an email to the reps. The focus is truly who bargains for whom...Not whether or not a guy paid for training, etc.
There is zero benefit for the DAL pilots here, only downside.
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12-22-2012, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
Do we know for a fact that the MEC and or the NEC was not consulted,
Yes DALPA was not consulted.
do they have to be a signatory?
Apparantly not.
Via the 35% possible hire of former ALPA pilots, does that possibly give that approval. Do we really think that Moak would sign on if he had not consulted TO?
Yes DALPA was not consulted.
do they have to be a signatory?
Apparantly not.
Via the 35% possible hire of former ALPA pilots, does that possibly give that approval. Do we really think that Moak would sign on if he had not consulted TO?
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12-22-2012, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Some of your reps are aware of the problem, but keep the cards and letters going...
Nu
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As others have noted, the fact that DALPA was circumvented is a direct violation of our contract, as well as the ALPA National Policy Manual. It is not acceptable, and sets a very bad precedent.
EVERYONE needs to write their Rep on this issue.
12-22-2012, 10:08 AM
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Just to reiterate, it has been verified that DALPA was in no way consulted during this process.
We got Moak'd by Moak, so to speak.
We got Moak'd by Moak, so to speak.
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