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Bucking Bar 01-21-2013 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1335567)
Well there you go, ALPA can do something the DPA can't, prove the DPA's point. :D


Quote of the year, 2013

In recognition of your accomplishment, Beyonce is on her way over to make you some breakfast!


Bucking Bar 01-21-2013 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1335562)
Yep.. haha. When I checked the fuel leak we were getting about 100-120 drops a minute. While not published in our manuals, having flown the Airbus you probably know that it is limited to 60 drops a minute.

We ran the engine, that went down some. Mx said "you're not going anywhere" and called out the engine shop people.

They came out... "ok you're good to go!"

"aroo? Did you fix it?"

"Nah, it's within 60 drops a minute now."

Top notch mx care for a plane that didn't really have to be in position for another 18 hours!

Just curious, with that kind of leak did they get out the mats and spill containment equipment?

At some airports I can't even throw a fuel sample on the ground without running afoul of the State EPD folks. The fines can be pretty serious and my avgas evaporates nearly instantly. Jet fuel kinda sticks around ....

Jack Bauer 01-21-2013 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1335564)
well, I'll agree with that.

But I wouldn't say they gave answers or solutions to the problem but rather they authored more jumbo RJs and more pilot efficiency and seem to be okay with the Pinnacle deal, so really there is no problem requiring a solution.

You know what is sad FTB? We will do it again in the next contract. There will be more productivity/work rule give aways at the hands of an ALPA sales job (constructive engagement) for a marginal pay raise while the company pushes over the 3 billion a year net profit (profit sharing will miss half of that) and Delta holding company outsources even further. That 7-9000 pilot Delta seniority list some talk about may be no joke. If you are jr, get used to no movement for an even longer period of time and maybe no upgrade before retirement depending on how old you are.

80ktsClamp 01-21-2013 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1335605)
Just curious, with that kind of leak did they get out the mats and spill containment equipment?

At some airports I can't even throw a fuel sample on the ground without running afoul of the State EPD folks. The fines can be pretty serious and my avgas evaporates nearly instantly. Jet fuel kinda sticks around ....

You flew the 757, didn't you? :) That thing leaked almost more than this every time it shut down!

NuGuy 01-21-2013 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1335567)
Well there you go, ALPA can do something the DPA can't, prove the DPA's point. :D

Damn FtB, your pen is quite sharp this evening.

Nu

hitimefurl 01-22-2013 02:00 AM


Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1335599)
These guys are so cocked and ready to go off on DPA they failed to read the question. It's a simple question....given the comments by management at the investor meeting in this video are we headed for organic growth or more outsourced flying?

Neither - it's edited for a reason. Delta only makes (loss) money on Delta, DCI and the AF JV while they basically make no money on code shares. AF is losing money and DCI capacity is moving to mainline disguised in the presentation as up-gauging mainline. Don't Google up-gauging BTW but you should probably Google CASM, I had to. Less people are flying but those who do are paying us more and the (less) planes (with more seats) are fuller making margins better with less capacity which is why I can't commute to work or go on vacation on my own airline.

FlyZ 01-22-2013 02:30 AM

Here's something cool about working for the World's Fastest Dwindling Airline.

For the same of easy math, let's say I'm 600 from the bottom and we have 12000 pilots. I'm 95% of the way down the list.

Now in 5-10 years, we will have retired 3000 people without hiring. I might not be quite 600 from the bottom because some of the guys below me will have gotten too frustrated and quit for UCAL, FDX, Emirates (once they open their US pilot base, etc). But hopefully only 100 or so will quit. So that puts me 500 from the bottom of a 9000 pilot force - which is...

94.4%!!

So your seniority really can improve without us growing or hiring! Be encouraged! If we get down to 6000 pilots in 20 years I'll be at 90% and holding a nice MD-88 FO line. Not a bad way to finish a Delta career...lots of landings to go around and I won't have to make those pesky trips to bounce in the sim!

So bring on the JV's... the VA order book...the AF A380's, and the upgauging at DCI. The faster we shrink, the faster I move up. Heh heh heh.

sailingfun 01-22-2013 03:00 AM


Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 1335636)
Here's something cool about working for the World's Fastest Dwindling Airline.

For the same of easy math, let's say I'm 600 from the bottom and we have 12000 pilots. I'm 95% of the way down the list.

Now in 5-10 years, we will have retired 3000 people without hiring. I might not be quite 600 from the bottom because some of the guys below me will have gotten too frustrated and quit for UCAL, FDX, Emirates (once they open their US pilot base, etc). But hopefully only 100 or so will quit. So that puts me 500 from the bottom of a 9000 pilot force - which is...

94.4%!!

So your seniority really can improve without us growing or hiring! Be encouraged! If we get down to 6000 pilots in 20 years I'll be at 90% and holding a nice MD-88 FO line. Not a bad way to finish a Delta career...lots of landings to go around and I won't have to make those pesky trips to bounce in the sim!

So bring on the JV's... the VA order book...the AF A380's, and the upgauging at DCI. The faster we shrink, the faster I move up. Heh heh heh.

Within what you stated and the investor conference what are Delta's plans the next few years for the size of the mainline fleet? Note the word mainline.

TANSTAAFL 01-22-2013 03:01 AM


Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 1335636)
Here's something cool about working for the World's Fastest Dwindling Airline.

For the same of easy math, let's say I'm 600 from the bottom and we have 12000 pilots. I'm 95% of the way down the list.

Now in 5-10 years, we will have retired 3000 people without hiring. I might not be quite 600 from the bottom because some of the guys below me will have gotten too frustrated and quit for UCAL, FDX, Emirates (once they open their US pilot base, etc). But hopefully only 100 or so will quit. So that puts me 500 from the bottom of a 9000 pilot force - which is...

94.4%!!

So your seniority really can improve without us growing or hiring! Be encouraged! If we get down to 6000 pilots in 20 years I'll be at 90% and holding a nice MD-88 FO line. Not a bad way to finish a Delta career...lots of landings to go around and I won't have to make those pesky trips to bounce in the sim!

So bring on the JV's... the VA order book...the AF A380's, and the upgauging at DCI. The faster we shrink, the faster I move up. Heh heh heh.

All TIC aside, it does appear that someone has bought off on pay raises in lieu of advancement/growth. Nice if you are as far as you are going seat wise. Of course this ignores the fact the biggest pay raises you get are from seat advancement. The days of you'll be senior and Captain someday have been replaced for many with you'll just be a senior F/O. Sadly many are capitulating on this point as well and just going for the $$. Great that we will get the 717 and start hiring in 2014(?). Never mind that a not insignificant portion of the pilot list will lose much of their 4/8/3/3 with a downgrade to lower paying equipment as we down gauge on one end while up gauging on the other. Please curb my enthusiasm :(

fisherpilot 01-22-2013 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1335449)
Those of you Gwinnett County people (like ftb and I) can rejoice! Behold what hails from our fine county!



Our guys in S. Forsyth can't hang. That's talent!


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