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Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1337498)
okay, vacation months I get, but I'm pretty hard pressed to find any "just take its" on the ptp swap board...IOW, guys are flying over 100 hrs in their vacation months and flying to the PUL on their non vacation months.
I dont mind a little exaggeration, but "half the guys I fly with..." don't have the option to fly over 100 hrs month in, month out. So, my 3 pronged strategy has been: 1.Credit to the max in vacation months using whiteslips; and 2. (especially in high alv months) bid reserve and move x-days to minimize exposure in other months, and 3.bid a line in other months and just fly it as delivered. IMO, in a way ALPA protected us from ourselves by getting the ALV (and subsequent reserve guarantee) raised. It takes the sting out of reserve and IMO, when guys bid like I do, we are not doing the harm to manning like some here surmise...And still crediting 90+ hrs/month on average across the year. Ever wonder where all those 2 day LAX trips in Open Time came from? Go look at the Wide Reports, you'll see the Senior 777 Capts. bid the 2 day LAX turns. Why? So they can then Swap with the Pot, for high time 4-8 day trips. It's legal because there is no ALV + 15 cap on a Swap with the Pot type pick up. So thes guys are bidding the 2 day, 10:15hr. trips, they get a 75hr. line, but then they swap them for the 30-45 hr. trips that nobody can white slip, it's too much time. But a Swap with the Pot works! Presto; a 100hr. + month. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1337554)
george posted a story about this last night. My question is, don't we still have options for 30 more 737-900ERs?
Would Delta be exercising those options, or is this a separate deal? I'd put money on the 321CEO (current model CFM56 with sharklets) Cheers George |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1337577)
There is another game to play, when it comes to getting high time, but you have to be senior to do it.
Ever wonder where all those 2 day LAX trips in Open Time came from? Go look at the Wide Reports, you'll see the Senior 777 Capts. bid the 2 day LAX turns. Why? So they can then Swap with the Pot, for high time 4-8 day trips. It's legal because there is no ALV + 15 cap on a Swap with the Pot type pick up. So thes guys are bidding the 2 day, 10:15hr. trips, they get a 75hr. line, but then they swap them for the 30-45 hr. trips that nobody can white slip, it's too much time. But a Swap with the Pot works! Presto; a 100hr. + month. :rolleyes: I've been wrong before, but I thought the only way to exceed ALV+15 was via Pilot to Pilot Swaps (as discussed a few pages back). |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1337577)
There is another game to play, when it comes to getting high time, but you have to be senior to do it.
Ever wonder where all those 2 day LAX trips in Open Time came from? Go look at the Wide Reports, you'll see the Senior 777 Capts. bid the 2 day LAX turns. Why? So they can then Swap with the Pot, for high time 4-8 day trips. It's legal because there is no ALV + 15 cap on a Swap with the Pot type pick up. So thes guys are bidding the 2 day, 10:15hr. trips, they get a 75hr. line, but then they swap them for the 30-45 hr. trips that nobody can white slip, it's too much time. But a Swap with the Pot works! Presto; a 100hr. + month. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by paxhauler85
(Post 1337575)
In other news, your airline is now funding yet ANOTHER competitor.
Republic/Shuttle/CHQ just inked a deal to fly 53 E-175s for American Airlines. They now fly for every single one of your competitors, except SWA. They also own Frontier. It all goes to the same bank account. ALPA: "They aren't a single transportation system." Now they are exempt so they dont count. ^^^^^^^^ In Europe, especially in the former Pact countries, You'd be walking along and see 2 lines going to the same thing. One was long, one was short. It's weird, but the psychology was that the long one was long because there must be something better at the end of it. The western mentality was to jump in the short line. Republic is the DAL version of the long line...nothing to see here folks. |
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1337594)
You're right Timbo, I forgot about that. Isn't that also just "premonth" IOW, the silver bullet only works the day before regular swap with the pot kicks in?
Go look at the wide reports, see who's bidding the short trips, and then go look at their actual scheule a few weeks into the month. If you don't want to get 'caught looking' at someone's schedule, just go back about 4 months and see what they are flying. For a long time I coulndn't figure out why the senior guys were bidding a 2day that signs in at 0710, until I flew with one of them on a DXB, he told me how he swaps the 2 days for the big trips, "all the time". |
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1337594)
You're right Timbo, I forgot about that. Isn't that also just "premonth" IOW, the silver bullet only works the day before regular swap with the pot kicks in?
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The trip parking scandal hasn't changed anything.
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 1337537)
and how does it effect all those people who don't fly us very often/never but use that Delta American Express Card?
Qualifying segment and/or mileage thresholds still apply to achieve each medallion tier. |
Has anyone seen or built a profit sharing formula for per person amount?
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