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02-26-2013 | 01:28 PM
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When you don't have a union that is willing to do the right thing and step in to protect pilots from themselves, this is the result. Our reps should never have let it get to a vote. But by passing it along, they enabled management to steal a lot of candy with very little in return. I agree that the consequences of this are only just beginning to be seen. Staffing the schedule with reserve pilots will become the norm.
02-26-2013 | 01:32 PM
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Give them time...they are either (A) sick, or (B) working to the point of fatigue...
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02-26-2013 | 01:32 PM
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02-26-2013 | 01:48 PM
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02-26-2013 | 01:49 PM
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02-26-2013 | 02:10 PM
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According to the March Crew Planning newsletter, the M88 is currently overstaffed on both the A and B positions even with the additional 13 MD90s coming (130 pilots in M88 staffing world).
They say they do not plan on posting openings on the 88 on the next AE and do not need to post openings for Summer 2013 flying.
As to displacements off the 88, they think enough will bid the 717 not to have to post displacements. If more than enough AE off the 88, then they may even do some backfilling if enough bid off.
But right now, the 88 is overstaffed.... at 10 pilots per plane.
They say they do not plan on posting openings on the 88 on the next AE and do not need to post openings for Summer 2013 flying.
As to displacements off the 88, they think enough will bid the 717 not to have to post displacements. If more than enough AE off the 88, then they may even do some backfilling if enough bid off.
But right now, the 88 is overstaffed.... at 10 pilots per plane.
02-26-2013 | 02:44 PM
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02-26-2013 | 03:00 PM
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I get that it is likely to be a 365 conversion bid and that some might find their way to the DTW 717 on the next AE before training but many junior pilots will be subject to possibly two training cycles. The really junior FO's might have no where to go but ATL 717, but I see most DC9 A's MD'ing to WB FO rather than ATL 717A which will then waterfall displacements throughout the system as junior WB FO's MD into lower paying categories.
The only caveat I see to that is if the company decides to have a commensurate number of DTW WB vacancies or hold an excess in those categories.
02-26-2013 | 03:04 PM
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They'll get plenty of 88 crews over to the 717 even if guys don't AE into it. The 88 is the lowest airplane on the totem poll not being closed so just MD them to the 717, same effect.
Besides we add about 2 dozen pilots in ATL M88B next month. I think MSP MDed pilots off the 88 recently, maybe I am remembering that wrong. Flew with a CVG guy who can barely keep landing currency. I dont know, I just dont think they need as many pilots per plane as they used to.
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02-26-2013 | 03:05 PM
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I don't see how 20 737 crews offset the - 50 DC9 crews that will be displaced out of DTW on this AE. Also very unlikely any of those could hold 737 A or B (or 320 which is going to have FO MD's)
I get that it is a 365 conversion bid and that some might find their way to the DTW 717 on the next AE, but many junior will be subject to possibly two training cycles. The really junior FO's might have no where to go but ATL 717, but I see most A's MD'ing to WB FO which will then waterfall displacements throughout the system as junior WB FO's MD into lower paying categories.
The only caveat I see to that is if the company decides to have a commensurate number of DTW WB vacancies or hold an excess in those categories.
I get that it is a 365 conversion bid and that some might find their way to the DTW 717 on the next AE, but many junior will be subject to possibly two training cycles. The really junior FO's might have no where to go but ATL 717, but I see most A's MD'ing to WB FO which will then waterfall displacements throughout the system as junior WB FO's MD into lower paying categories.
The only caveat I see to that is if the company decides to have a commensurate number of DTW WB vacancies or hold an excess in those categories.
The company's flavor of the month(or year maybe) is overstaffed. But I wouldn't be surprised if they ran the bid multiple times to minimize displacements. And one has to wonder what's cheaper. Keeping pilots still in a fat category, or a cascading waterfall of displacements resulting is massive $$$$ spent on training.
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