We should all get together and have someone read communiqué to the group while we play "buzzword bingo". Capacity dicipline. Waiting to hear from network. Displacements. "Funding" categories with other categories. Over staffed. Any answer to "how come the trips suck" that implies that they don't really suck and/or are going to get better real super soon, etc.

Although to be fair, overstaffed should probably be the pre-colored in center square for every game piece.

We'd have to make it Bingo. No way could we have a drinking game that required shots everytime someone says overstaffed or we'd all be standing knee high in empty minis and completely unable to green slip anything that starts with "how soon can you get here?"

Guys,


ALV + 15 is a negative for the Pilot group. The question is how big a negative? I guess I am a contrarian on this issue because I don't think it will be that bad. Here are my reasons:


Most will never see ALV +15. Guys are done above the ALV unless they want to fly more. For every unlucky guy that gets nailed with the 16 hour trip at ALV-1 another will get the 11 hour trip at ALV-10.



So basically a guy has just as much of a chance to be done at ALV+1 as ALV +15. Lets just assume the average guy that is forced to fly over ALV will end up around ALV + 7.5 (law of averages).


ALV + 15 only helps toward the months end. As I have said before the constraints for reserves are usually Holidays, Weekends, and IROP events. ALV + 15 does nothing for these for at least the first three weeks of the months.


So if the company tries to significantly cut back on reserves assigned there will be less reserves for the weekends, holidays, and IROPs. This will result in more white-slips, green-slips, or cancellations.


Don't get me wrong - there will be a few guys who get hosed by ALV + 15 and will probably end up with ALV + 14:55 and get ridden hard and put away wet, so to speak. But that happens to guys randomly every summer. Maybe a few more guys will get abused, hell probably a few more guys, but for the reasons I listed above I don't think it will significantly affect the majority of guys on reserve.


I have been on and off reserve for 13+ years and this is how I see it. I am interested in hearing the opinions of the guys who think the ALV +15 will really kill us. Not just "we will all be abused on reserve" but specifically how it will go down and how ALV + 15 will contribute to more that a few guys getting abused.


Finally, you can argue that even one guy getting abused by ALV + 15 is one guy too many. This is a different argument and one that I don't necessarily disagree with, but that is a whole different issue - I want to know how the ALV + 15 issue will be as overwhelmingly negative for the whole Pilot group as some on here seem to think.


Scoop

The flexibility that gives the computer modeling is the biggest "give back" even if a single pilot never actually hits that max value. Just the fact that pilots can go to ALV+15, especially during the peaks (which is the only time they would anyway) is enough to drive staffing decisions to a significant degree.

Now some will say that "full at guarantee" offsets that. I haven't ciphered that as hard as I should have yet, but I'm definately not convinced that makes it even Stephen. It still looks like a net loss. Summer 2013 will reveal a lot about it though, as will the (lack of?) hiring in the *next* AE.


its always the next AE...

I don't know the exact numbers, but I'd guess that the ATL 88 A + B categories alone is less than a year ago. If utilization is up now, I think it's logical to say the summer utilization will be even greater.

Looks like the nail in the coffin for Kingfisher.

Ministry to give Kingfisher local slots, global flying rights to other carriers - Livemint

Well stated.

As a Vancouver native I'm offended!! Vancouver is most definitely not French!! :p:p:)

Actually it's tough to be a Canuck fan. Has been ever since I can remember. Maybe that's why I was a die hard oilers fan. Although they've sucked or years. Anyone up for a gladiators game?

Oilers have some great young talent. They look like they could become contenders quick.

And obviously the citizens of Vancouver are more tough then the Canucks players. Look what happened when they lost the Stanley Cup Finals in 2011. :p

During the base visit, Crew Resources said somewhere between 20-50 ERB displacements but would not hint on what side of that figure it would be. Seems to be a moving target and in reality it depends on how many AE off to the 717A.

Part of it is the staffing model. How will delta plan the use or reserves is the key. It does not effect PBS min staffing but it DOES affect the fluff they plan on keeping above it once we start hiring. My guess is about 100-200 pilots system wide.