Texas - I edited my post. This whole thing has got me overly excited.

I want to support Moak and am happy our MEC works as well as it does. There is a tight inner circle that work together well, but the problem is their exclusion of others and others' ideas with communication that borders on outright hostility. If they wish to maintain peace they have to offer some flexibility.

Flexibility is not anarchy. But being inflexible will boil over into anarchy, or worse, a decertification drive prior to C2012. Not that I advocate that, I;d fight it, but stonewalling your own members only lasts so long.

If their minds are unwilling to listen to the pilots they represent, then they must be exchanged for others who will represent their pilots. I had already made up my mind after the vote in Memphis.

I agree, and I too have edited my post.

Fact is that to get something done that is productive to the pilots that I may represent, we need to stop the bi-partisan bickering and work towards a goal that serves the constituents, not the elected leaders.
That may be the process that is occurring now, and if I run and if elected and that is the case I will communicate to those who have elected me that Lee does have his head and heart in the correct place. I have thick skin and can take the blows for doing that.
If it is not the case, the people that may elect me to office can rely on the fact that I will fight for their desires to the fullest of my ability.

Unity for the sake of unity has to start here. That means being the bigger man and taking on the unpopular fight when it needs to be taken.

I called a rep today with the question about management coming to DALPA and asking to put Compass on the list. Answer was never happened. Management is hard over that the will not merge any DCI list. If management wanted something like this they would have put it out to the pilots at Delta and Compass. That is how they have operated in the past if the feel the MEC is not going with the pilots. Not a peep about it. Another urban legend like much posted on these forums.

It goes deeper than just the elected reps. It appears that it also goes though a few of the committees.

Will you volunteer as communications chair? !:eek:

Just a joke!

What?

I remember a time when it seemed like you read what you wrote, and put some effort in it. Now it looks merely like you've gone rabbid: all foam at the mouth, nothing cognitive going on.

I generally don't support "professional" ALPA people, so I like the idea of new blood. But I dislike the false proposition that anyone will do better on Scope just because they're not LM. I think it's being used to support people who actually have a clear (and very poor) record WRT Scope. I don't know exactly who the candidates are, but I'm tired of these whisper campaigns that you seem to be such a willing instrument for.

If you know someone that will do better than LM on Scope (AND THE OTHER CRUCIAL ISSUES), then tell us 1) who they are, 2) what they want to do, 3) how they will do it. In addition, please disclose any relationship between them and others who are actually even more "retro". IOW, prove to us you actually are supporting "new blood" that isn't in fact "old blood". Old and bitter, and politically motivated that is.

Meantime, this personal obsession with LM is getting tiresome. You sound like you two went on a date sometime in college, and it didn't go well.

Bar,

One item on which I agree completely: flow-throughs are UNSAT, and probably counterproductive. They serve little purpose in terms of the "pro-quo", and all the "quids" usually are heinous.

Maybe maybe not, but the DAL N CA stated long ago that the company would approach the MEC about putting the CPS pilots and jets back on the list.

Stupid question ...

Why wasn't there any vacancies on the 777 in the latest AE?

I assume it is because they may not be doing 12+ hr segments for the winter months and the increase that is needed in staffing for the next two will not been needed until spring.
That can be covered on the Jan AE.