PBS should not have awarded the trips. Lines are built with a 30 minute buffer. A mistake has been made.

I walked into the dog groomer in the middle of the summer with a northface jacket on and thick ski gloves and my 15 lb black dog that needed his nails cut. They were perplexed. They thought a muzzle would suffice.

I came out bleeding from bites and scratches through the gloves and jacket and poop on the front of jeans. The dog got so scarred he pooped.

I love animals, but my rescue dog sucks.

We used to have a lot of DTW DC-9 trips that ended with a Canada turn so that we could go to 32 in 7. That was 12 years ago and the rules may have changed. I'd give scheds a call. Let us know what you find out.

The old NWA schedulers would make him fly down while deadheading a reserve, and then deadhead him back while the reserve flies...even if they had to bump a paying passenger each way on an oversold flight to do it. That really happened to me on a MEM-BTR turn for 30/7.

I'll wait until it's in DBMS before I call. No sense making it an issue until it's final.

If it is truly a violation, it will flag in DBMS.

Something that dumb should be followed up with a sick call in BTR by the reserve. Of course that would be very Flanigan like and would strand pax in the process of trying to teach them a lesson so probably not a good idea.

There is no personal burdern with complying with it.

It's the fact that it's nearly impossible to comply with due to ATC handling and the math on improvements is completely invalid.

From what I heard, it was supposed to be tabled years ago but slipped by.... so they kept using it. Perhaps logic will prevail and it's nuked this time.

BTW, how's that more frequent bid thing working out? Notice how they already pushed the next one back to an even wider spacing than this one?

32 in 7 for international two man operations.

DAL generally schedules with a half our buffer.

That's a scheduling fallacy. The actual reg (121.471) states:

(a) No certificate holder conducting domestic operations may schedule any flight crewmember and no flight crewmember may accept an assignment for flight time in scheduled air transportation or in other commercial flying if that crewmember's total flight time in all commercial flying will exceed—

Note the "schedule" portion. Actual and scheduled are by definition different. They can not have 30:01 on your schedule. Unless its after the start of your last duty period. Then it's covered by the FAA approved fallacy of legal to start legal to finish. Show me where the FARs directly say "legal to start, legal to finish" and I'll buy you a beer.

My assumption is that the Freeport turn is under Flag Ops (121.481) which allows up to 32 in 7.

NWA, as well as a great number of carriers misinterpret the definition of scheduled. If its indeed of concern, I'd seek clarification if this ever happens.

Then again, none of this will matter once the new regs come along...I hope.