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Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 665527)

Lets change 85-90% of the way you do things, change how you control your life (PBS),how you get to work-or not, your sick leave, your insurance, your vacation, moving 800-1200 pages in Jepps, getting new books....and change how you get paid, you may be a tad upset.

-Said the Republic pilot to the Northwest Orient pilot :)

So will say the Delta pilot to the Air France pilot......

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 665530)

So will say the Delta pilot to the Air France pilot......

If our current union leadership attitude stands, yes!

Just out of curiosity where are all the 777's this winter?

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Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 665527)

Offer a pay raise, the opportunity to improve your domicile and QOL, merge with fellow professional aviators to form the world's largest airline in a time when the industry is tubing, etc, etc, etc.....

You might see why some of us think you're ****ing in the wind....move on.:rolleyes:

Could care less, trying to offer an explanation how some may feel about things. Its all about perception not reality.

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Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 665332)

One thing to watch is the 88 NYC trips... Most the trips sign-in b4 8am and finish after 8pm (alot after 10pm). So even if you drive you are looking at leaving your house at 3am and getting home at 3am. When I was based there, most the guys that drive still had a crash pad. On the 88 in NYC I think everyone has a crashpad.

Just to ad to what BigGuns said, commute times in NYC vary widely and are unpredictable. During early morning or late evening (before or after rush), your commute times can INCREASE because NYC will close bridges, lanes, and tunnels for construction.

My two longest drives ever were 4 hours at midnight leaving LGA and going home (80 miles total distance). It took me 3 hours just to get out of the city!!! (roughly 10 miles)

My drives into work have been fairly consistent. I plan for 2 hours to get from NJ over to LGA or JFK. In the early mornings I cut this back to 1 hour, but that has caught me by surprise a few times. In those instances, I made the flight, but not sign-in.

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 665522)

...And you wonder why people so veraciously question that are done by the union...

You made me look up the usage of the word "veraciously." Thanks!

My contempt is for the machinations of those that are attempting to use this event purely for political purposes. Two of the primary heating elements for the teapot are "unannounced" candidates for LEC office. Their motivation isn't to help, it's to divide. Ask them why they'd send a targeted e-mail only to North reps, or why they'd title a thread "Roberts unintentionally ressurected<sic>". The rest of the tempest comes from those that through misinformation legitimately believe that they might be affected, and another group of the usual suspects that even if their fears were true wouldn't be affected by the MOU due to their lack of seniority.

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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 665549)

Ditto for LA. I leave at least two hours prior to sign in at LAX (I live 45 miles away) and I commute down the night before for early sign ins at SNA. If you have a rush hour sign in at LAX and you live in the burbs, you're essentially commuting from out of town. I have buddies living in SLC that can commute down in the same amount of time it takes me to drive in.

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Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 665519)

Sure I can. Just like Tanksley, et. al. Anybody can sue. To win you generally have to have a case.

The tempest in a teapot brewing over there is over the perceived change in rolling of the cards for the APA process. A bunch of folks think that it is somehow related to the Anchorage base closure. It isn't. It's about PRIP.

As far as filling of vacancies, how many vacancies does a 15% systemwide reduction in block hours create? How many vacancies does a base closure create? How many vacancies does parking the entire fleet of 747-200's create? How many vacancies does parking 4 of 16 747-400 create?

Easy answer. Each creates displacements. No advancements. Those guys "held out" don't have vacancies to bid into. The results using the APA process would have been the same with or without MOU-7. The results of the PRIP would have been far different. Only 2 of 26 747-400 Captains that took the PRIP are leaving before December. Absent MOU-7 and their ability to hit their milestones, how many of the remaining 24 would have opted to stay?

The MEC directed that each pre-merger group benefit from its own PRIPS. It directed that each pilot be allowed to hit milestones. That's what MOU-7 does.

Some crisis. The misrepresentation to heat this teapot is ridiculous.

Slow, I agree that this thing is probably getting blown out of proportion, but your "2 of 26 747-400 captain" quote is a very selective use of the statistics available. There are 28 330 captain seats being vacated before December. So, that's 30 widebody captain seats that may go to junior displacee's ahead of senior bidders. That is no small deal, in my opinion.