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Check Essential 05-29-2013 04:25 AM

Apparently some guy decided not to go after all. So he got up and left.


NERD 05-29-2013 04:27 AM

And the one item on your list we have any control over below, we help them day in, day out. 0 res yesterday and today for atlm88a and yesterday ws were flowing. Almost every weekend we have 0, and with the exception of the last 2 wks (lots of GS) the "ladies of the night" are falling all over themselves. We are our own worst enemies. Next contract the max p/u needs to be tied to the Alv. Alv of 70 = max p/u of +15 sliding down to Alv of 84 = max p/u of +1. Never happen though, too many pigs at the trough. Every 5 pilots flying alv + 15 = 1 upgrade or newhire. Think about that when you ws.




Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1417578)
Yep,

Hiring next year. Just like you might see the sign in a bar that says "Free beer tomorrow."

Actually I really think that we might hire......... unless we are affected by:

SARS
War
Some kind of Economic crisis
An aviation related terrorist event
Bird Flu pandemic
A hurricane appears anywhere in the Gulf of Mexico
It snows twice in Atlanta next winter
The price up fuel jumps.............again
Age 70 hits - ALPA decides that we can not stop it so we might as well have some input. Great!
PRP II - "Back in Black" After all how are we gonna train the new 747/777 Pilots when all the LCA are retiring.
Codeshares/JVs/DCI Blossom at our expense (OOOPs too late - already happened).
A Zombie apocalypse occurs.
The "Board" does not allow it - After all how will it look on the street if we are hiring while singing the praises of Capacity restraint?
The company wants to hire but sees that most Pilots are willingly White Slipping up to 95 hours, so they decide not to hire.
Carbon Credits become mandatory and cost too much.
Stagflation hits with a vengeance.
Alaska airlines opens a NYC base to provide more convenient connection options to Delta passengers.

Or we spend billions on stock buybacks (again) and then anyone of the above scenarios occur.

So if none of the above occur, we will definitely hire "next year."

Scoop :)


Rather B Fishin 05-29-2013 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1417468)
Its the SWA model, use oil and the government to help you win.

The SWA guys think we make this crap up. Going into DTW 2 days ago it was rainy with low ceilings, visibility was decent. CLE center advises us that they are starting to hold on the next frequency. We switch over and get assigned a hold at Polar for 20-25 min for volume/wx. SWA checks in a few minutes behind and gets told to set up for holding. They immediately reply "we only have gas for 1/2 a turn then we have to go to our alternate." CLE centers unbelievably says "ok we'll see what we can do to get you right in". A few minutes later they are the cleared to DTW via the arrival. Absolute horse s*#t!! They never declared min fuel or a fuel emergency. Multiple airplanes were holding in the stack ahead of them.

Since when does the government (faa) favor an airline or a flight that didn't plan properly? Have your dispatch put on enough fuel or go to your alternate!! Every plane in the stack waited longer and burned more fuel, we even had to hold past our efc so SWA didn't have to divert.....

forgot to bid 05-29-2013 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by n9810f (Post 1417572)
Just a thought....

Now that we're hearing CR2's down to 100 from 125, does this add credence to the Airbus narrow body/widebody rumor? A couple of reputable aviation outlets had reported we wanted a few more narrowbody's if Boeing and/or Airbus would take more 50 seaters off our hands.

It shows you that there were other ways to get rid of 50 seaters months after being told the only way to get rid of them was to trade them in for super premium jumbo regional jets.

The only way.

forgot to bid 05-29-2013 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin (Post 1417646)
The SWA guys think we make this crap up. Going into DTW 2 days ago it was rainy with low ceilings, visibility was decent. CLE center advises us that they are starting to hold on the next frequency. We switch over and get assigned a hold at Polar for 20-25 min for volume/wx. SWA checks in a few minutes behind and gets told to set up for holding. They immediately reply "we only have gas for 1/2 a turn then we have to go to our alternate." CLE centers unbelievably says "ok we'll see what we can do to get you right in". A few minutes later they are the cleared to DTW via the arrival. Absolute horse s*#t!! They never declared min fuel or a fuel emergency. Multiple airplanes were holding in the stack ahead of them.

Since when does the government (faa) favor an airline or a flight that didn't plan properly? Have your dispatch put on enough fuel or go to your alternate!! Every plane in the stack waited longer and burned more fuel, we even had to hold past our efc so SWA didn't have to divert.....

The IRS is going to audit you for complaining about that. :D


Of course the government going out of its way to help one airline over another reached its crescendo during the Slot Swap debacle with Ray LaHood.

Of course I'll tell you a story. A Captain said they were in ATL taxing back from 10/28 and short of 27L. (give or take). An AirTran jet lands and was advised to expedite due to the spacing with the jet behind them... a SWA 737. If this is indicative of anything, the AirTran jet basically puts on the brakes and goes to min taxi speed to exit the runway.

Tower told SWA, "go around, traffic on the runway." SWA says "no we got it" and lands with the AirTran jet either still somewhere around the exit point.

Nothing was said until the SWA 737 exited the runway. Then as the Captain said, all hell broke loose on the radio from the tower. Including call this number and what have you.

ATL I think has done a good job over the years of being fair to Delta, AirTran and everyone else who comes in. It's just there are some places like SAT or MCO that are blatant about favoritism while some heavy SWA locations are not like BWI - at least in my experience.

Bucking Bar 05-29-2013 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1417649)
The IRS is going to audit you for complaining about that. :D

A little diversion. As those of us who support ALPA PAC know, it is not tax deductible.

Well, what if we called ALPA PAC a community service organization and decided to skirt the law just enough to claim tax exemption, or willingly break the law and still claim exemption not permitted under the regulation? What if we got together with other similar PACs and published a road map to tax evasion, recommending others follow our lead? Figure that would get unwanted attention? Think the IRS, once they figured out there was an organized effort by some organizations (some of who were using their tax exempt status to educate followers to break the law and calling themselves a "religious organization" to escape taxation) there might be extra attention given to those suspected of violating the regulations?

Just the "other side of the story" for those who like the "why" to go with their "what." Not saying the IRS was, or is, right. Just explaining how the snow ball got started ... the story not being reported much on this side of the Atlantic. (much like Presidential intern fondling, the European Press does not understand the hubub Americans have with cracking down on tax cheats)

The IRS has the task of implementing the tax code Congress comes up with. A tax code which everyone agrees is entirely out of hand. IMHO a "Fair Tax" plan is the way to go.

Timbo 05-29-2013 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1417645)
And the one item on your list we have any control over below, we help them day in, day out. 0 res yesterday and today for atlm88a and yesterday ws were flowing. Almost every weekend we have 0, and with the exception of the last 2 wks (lots of GS) the "ladies of the night" are falling all over themselves. We are our own worst enemies. Next contract the max p/u needs to be tied to the Alv. Alv of 70 = max p/u of +15 sliding down to Alv of 84 = max p/u of +1. Never happen though, too many pigs at the trough. Every 5 pilots flying alv + 15 = 1 upgrade or newhire. Think about that when you ws.

At least white slipping HAS a limit, it's the 'swap with the pot' and ecrew swap board that has no limits, other than FAR's. That's where guys are picking up to get 120hr. lines. I see the senior 777 guys bidding the 2 day, 10hr. trips only to swap them for 32 hr. Joburg trips. Do that twice and you've just picked up an additional 44 hours! :rolleyes:

You wonder why they keep displacing guys out and shrinking the category? That's why. :rolleyes:

How about we bring back a true Hard Cap, pick a number, 82, 85? What ever, but let there be no way to go above it, or if you do, via reroute or IA, the time over the cap goes into a bow wave for your next month's credit.

In other words, go back to what we used to have, 20 years ago...

Superpilot92 05-29-2013 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by n9810f (Post 1417572)
Just a thought....

Now that we're hearing CR2's down to 100 from 125, does this add credence to the Airbus narrow body/widebody rumor? A couple of reputable aviation outlets had reported we wanted a few more narrowbody's if Boeing and/or Airbus would take more 50 seaters off our hands.

heard this week that Airbus is willing to work with Delta to dump the 50 seaters in order to get us into more narrowbodys with them. Boeing wasnt willing to take the 50 seaters in a deal. We'll see

sailingfun 05-29-2013 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1417647)
It shows you that there were other ways to get rid of 50 seaters months after being told the only way to get rid of them was to trade them in for super premium jumbo regional jets.

The only way.

Actually just the opposite. There were viable options for getting rid if the airframes and not moving the flying to the mainline.

forgot to bid 05-29-2013 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1417669)
A little diversion. As those of us who support ALPA PAC know, it is not tax deductible.

Well, what if we called ALPA PAC a community service organization and decided to skirt the law just enough to claim tax exemption, or willingly break the law and still claim exemption not permitted under the regulation? What if we got together with other similar PACs and published a road map to tax evasion, recommending others follow our lead? Figure that would get unwanted attention? Think the IRS, once they figured out there was an organized effort by some organizations (some of who were using their tax exempt status to educate followers to break the law and calling themselves a "religious organization" to escape taxation) there might be extra attention given to those suspected of violating the regulations?

Just the "other side of the story" for those who like the "why" to go with their "what." Not saying the IRS was, or is, right. Just explaining how the snow ball got started ... the story not being reported much on this side of the Atlantic. (much like Presidential intern fondling, the European Press does not understand the hubub Americans have with cracking down on tax cheats)

The IRS has the task of implementing the tax code Congress comes up with. A tax code which everyone agrees is entirely out of hand. IMHO a "Fair Tax" plan is the way to go.

The IG ran an investigation on this, found 100% of the applications from certain groups were selected for specialist to review and given the correspondence between the IRS specialist and the groups seeking exemption and the fact the fifth is being pleaded at congressional hearings, this is a very big deal because as the IG said they went outside reasonable.criteria to determine if people were trying to skate the law with their 501c4s.
USA TODAY: That was the month before the Internal Revenue Service started singling out Tea Party groups for special treatment. There wouldn't be another Tea Party application approved for 27 months.

In that time, the IRS approved perhaps dozens of applications from similar liberal and progressive groups, a USA TODAY review of IRS data shows


The next time you want to use the powers of.the IRS to go after political enemies, try and cover it up with say one or two denials of political allies. Rookies.

Besides, when Delta kicks us to the exchanges and the IRS runs.that show is.my.background on who I financially supported going.to have any sway over whether my.kids get approved for needed care? Is there any evidence your politics matters to the IRS? I'm sure some would say they don't agree with my politics so that could be justified.


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